Cat Fight In The D-League: Trouble is A-brewin' Folks!
Promoted from the FanPosts - Little harsh, but this situation needed some publication and I'm still part-time. Thanks, Mr. IceMan, for getting on this so quickly -- Scott
With the first game of the NBA D-League finals getting ready to tip off in a few hours, the drama and suspense could not be more palpable. But just when you thought the explosive mixture of borderline NBA talent, roaring, packed to the brim crowds, and high quality, streaming video were too much to handle, this whole mess just got kicked up a notch. (By the way, if TNT knows Drama, then the NBA Futurecast knows drama... and buffering).
NBA D-League Finals.....Crazy Explosive!
Hit the jump to reveal the drama!
Just as the 2009 D-League Finals starts to heat up, in steps Brandt Andersen, the D-League's very own Mark Cuban, to add a touch of venom. All season Brandt has been asserting himself as the opposite of this kid, basically a vocal leader/owner/angry dude. Today, while taking a break from reading War & Peace, I stumbled upon Mr. Andersen's blog, or should I say the grammar how-not-to, and I found this charming little entry just after the one about suing people:
This (beating the 14ers) was particularly painful after their head coach told several people during the showcase that "the Flash cheaters" and "we will easily win again". That's right Bob-your comments were circulated.
So Bob if you are reading, try to control your emotions tonight-our fans are kids and families and they expect a certain level of professionalism.
And in an earlier post he said this:
Did anyone see the reaction of the head coach of the Colorado 14ers-Bob MicKinnon? I have rarely seen such a poor display of sportsmanship. After loosing the first game he claimed he was not coming back out onto the court. He was yelling and swearing at anyone he could find. Then after loosing the second game he refused to shake the hand of our coach. I hate loosing as much as anyone but that type of behavior is unacceptable... That was a classless display and I hope the league takes action against him for his behavior. For about a minute I considered saying something to him but there was nothing that was going to break my mood last night. Flash prevailed.
Just to clarify, it's MacKinnon. I also like that he wouldn't confront him in person.
What an angry, angry little man.
So Brandt Andersen is calling out Bob MacKinnon!?!? I can't wait for this meltdown. What if the Flash, to put in Brandt-speak, loose? What will happen then? Uber-meltdown followed by a fist fight at mid-court?
Which of these two men would you rather fight?
Yeah, exactly, MacKinnon with the beatdown.
But don't fret D-League fans, I'm sure this will all pan out in the end. Bob will take young Mr. Andersen out for a drink after the game after the macho posturing has ended (chocolate milk for Brandt of course). Coach MacKinnon will sit Brandt on his knee and apologize for using ugly mommy/daddy words in front of the Flash fanbase. Then Bob will begin to help Brandt hedge his words and examine his basketball IQ. Whatever that means.
ENJOY THE GAME TONIGHT!! Iceman out.
UPDATE: Check Andersen's blog comments for an epic struggle of Good Vs. Evil.
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Hey I like the Flash too
but not enough to start a blogwar about it . . . maybe ownership just makes you crazy?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 22, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or crazy makes you crazy
Haha, no I don’t even dislike him that much, but it’s just too funny to pass up. I hope no one looses it tonight.
by Aisander D on Apr 22, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what makes him crazy
From what I hear, Bob doesn’t even know there’s an issue between the two.. Regardless, as Iceman says, it’s just too funny to pass up.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 22, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob's got better stuff to do
like coach, gameplan, sleep, eat, and take dumps.
by Aisander D on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 22, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the $*%!
Is this pro basketball or 8-year old girls soccer? If Brandt has his way the two teams will sit down in a circle with their juice boxes and orange slices at halftime and they’ll all get a trophy after a 0-0-3 series tie. Good God.
by LoDo on Apr 22, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait
All, meaning owners as well? Or just the players? Clarify, please, Mr. LoDo. If this isn’t Brandt’s idea, I’m assuming it could become an option.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 22, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fake drama
I am guessing this Brandt character is in cahots with the geniuses behind Freddy Finals to gin up a scandal in attempt to get someone, anyone to pay attention to this series…
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by Phoenix Stan on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Except “this Brandt character” is the owner of the Utah Flash. Had an article last year about wanting to be an NBA owner in the Washington Post. He’s been drumming this drama up all season.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 22, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three people I don't like today.
I don’t like Brent Barnaky. I don’t like Freddy Finals. I don’t like Brandt Andersen. If any of them (or heaven forbid all three of them) are in the Broomfield Event Center Friday night, you can look forward to some good old fashioned public flogging.
Following the link to Andersen’s litigation blog made me dislike him all the more. The guy is just wrong in the head. I love that he’s not litigious (note the necessary “i” to form a correctly spelled word), but he has had to sue 2 or 3 times. Well I’ve never been a violent type…but I have had to beat up someone 2 or 3 times. I might consider making it 3 or 4 times if I wasn’t afraid of being sued.
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by 14ersFan on Apr 22, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad you enjoyed the post 14ersFan
now please only bring non-leathal weapons to the game tonight.
by Aisander D on Apr 22, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Broomfield...
so everyone is safe tonight. But Friday the hot dogs will be flying at dangerous speeds.
by 14ersFan on Apr 22, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 22, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as those hotdogs don't contain shards of glass
and make sure not to throw batteries into the “away” section ala Maryland Terps
by Aisander D on Apr 22, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was asked to move this from another post to this one. I wrote this pre-game to game 1. As I posted after the game I can’t wait to read the garbage coming out of Brandt’s Excuse Factory tomorrow.
Additionally Brandt, I know your lackeys are reading this so they can relay your “to do list” – please congratulate Colorado for beating you a$$ at home when it counted and personally apologize to Coach Mac for being a complete and utter tool. Then power down your computer and get back to getting financing/building whatever that architectural marvel you designed with legos for your Cheating Flash to play in so we don’t have to continue to watch your team play at some junior college gym.
If you can get that done we might give you another shot at hosting another Showcase so you and your staff can make up for the abortion that this years was.
Chop chop!
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Look, I know people say he is a tool. I know people that say he is just a lucky lottery winner that and he somehow thinks his one-timer translates into his excrement smelling like roses. And yes, I have seen him in Boise and just by mere observation I can understand where people are coming from when they say those things.
That being said, I never particularly minded him as an owner because a) he seems like he enjoys owning his team b) more importantly can afford to owe his team (which the DLeague can use more of) and c) I have seen worse.
However this screed against Bob Mac and Colorado on his blog really has no explanation in sanity or reality. In my opinion, if he has an issue with Coach Mac, he needs to take it up with DRead-Rizzle and league – off frickin’ line. Although I have teasingly compared Brandt to Mark Cuban, Brandt is no Mark Cuban and the comparison to Cuban is a slight on Cuban. Andersen’s filling his blog with this stuff shows how minor league as an owner he really is.
Hey Brandt – you think David Stern is going to be impressed by this? YOU ARE EMBARRASSING YOURSELF, YOUR TEAM and OUR LEAGUE!
I was ambivalent as to whom I wanted to win this this series – now, I consider myself a Colorado 14er fan. DeeJay, peel off some of that duct tape and paste it across Brandt’s keyboard for him…and his mouth while you are at it.
by Rumble on Apr 23, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Brandt would beat the crap out of Bob...
Even if deejay taped one of his hands down. and brandt had a coke in the other hand brandt would kill bob in a 1on1 or a fight.
“please congratulate Colorado for beating you a$$ at home when it counted” -Rumble
i dont think its a beating when you miss a shot at the buzzer and have to go to overtime. No hand shake maybe a beating he put cause im sure it really hit the flash coaches feelings so you are correct after all…
it should say “please coach mackinnon do a better job coaching you let a 25 point lead melt down, you are a terrible coach!”
“the grammar how-not-to”? Brandt is a very busy man the day after he posted the blog misspelling looser and mickinnon he noticed it an changed it before you said anything stupid about it!!!!! Brandt owns an operates a Professional Basketball team, a golf course and one of the top basketball training facilities in the world. i dont think you need to put so much hate on a guy that accidently put 2 o’s in a word.
Brandt is the owner of the flash and will be for years to come.
Bob is the coach of the 14ers and will be in a van down by the river after mondays loss.
I have lived in north dakota for most of my life and you put shame to the community of ND and the fellow fans of the wizards
Grow some bob!
Brandt has class.
Adam.
p.s. brandt only misspelled loser once in his post not 3 times!!!
p.s.s. brandt will be in colorado at the game and if any acts of violence occur you will be the one getting the beatdown.
p.s.s.s. freddy finals will also be there.
by RU stands for Really Unnoying on Apr 23, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this serious? Unnoying?
First, I hate to start replying by referring to the last part of your post, but p.s.s.s. doesn’t make sense. If it had been p.p.p.s, then this would make sense. Wait! Upon Googling p.s.s.s., I get the feeling you might onto something! If were you, “Adam”, that would have been better used as a shot at North Dakota.
Now, back to the top.
Is Brandt an MMA fighter? What makes you so sure Brandt would kill Coach MacKinnon? I personally think Coach MacKinnon has better things to do, as Iceman stated earlier – like coach, gameplan, sleep, eat, and take dumps. However, if Brandt were really insisting on fighting Coach MacKinnon, I’d pay top dollar to watch it.
I’d respond to the second “paragraph,” but can’t make heads or tails of it. “No hand shake maybe a beating he put cause im sure…”? What’s that mean?
Coach MacKinnon is a terrible coach? He had two more victories than the other 15 teams in the league. His father was a great coach, and despite not quite agreeing with everything Coach MacKinnon does, I tend to respect coaches that do their job.
The original blog post is right here. In it, you’ll see that you were wrong. I won’t point out the individual errors that you made, but just check the facts, then know that you are wrong. He didn’t quite fix it before anyone said anything about it if we’ve noticed this, did he? I don’t think anyone hates Brandt, by the way. Dislike the way he does things relating to calling people out in his blog? Yes, most certainly. But I do respect his business acumen of the past. Also, I have a hard time believing that he operates one of the top basketball training facilities in the world. In Utah, it’s probably top 3.
Brandt is the owner of the Flash, but I don’t think he will be for “years to come.” I believe even Brandt has hopes on one day owning an NBA team, rather than the Flash.
Coach MacKinnon, provided he loses two straight games in Colorado, a place he’s lost four games all season, will not be living in a van. I’m sure he’ll go back home to North Carolina, hang out with the family, nad make the best decision on where he is headed next.
I am glad that you have lived in North Dakota for most of your life. Maybe we could meet? Give me a call/shoot me a text, 701-226-8246, and we can meet up. I live in Bismarck on Assumption Drive, if you don’t have time and just want to stop over and shoot the breeze. I can’t wait to talk about the close knit community of the entire state we’ve both spent our lives in. As far as fan of the Wizards, I am more than a fan of the Wizards, I am a fan of good basketball. My favorite player in the league this year is Josh Davis, who has never played for the Wizards. I’m also a fan of over half the other franchises and players on many different teams. If you’ll remember, I’ve written multiple articles, and even did an interview, with Dontell Jefferson, who was called up from your Utah Flash. I also had Coach Jones as my 3rd vote for Coach of the Year, behind Coach Gates and Coach MacKinnon.
I’m not aware of how to “Grow some bob!” Is this anything like a chia pet?
In your first p.s., you note that Brandt only misspelled loser once. There’s evidence, linked above, that it was more than once.
In your p.s.s., which I have no idea of the meaning, you say I will be getting beat down? Why? When have I threatened Brandt at all?
Finally, in your third and final p with a bunch of s’s behind it, I love Freddy Finals. Thanks for letting us know where he’ll be!
Scott Schroeder
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got some!
I believe that “Adam” (a.k.a. Brandt’s evil minion or perhaps alter ego) meant to say “Grow some, Bob”, but either thought he was dissing him by dropping the capital or was just so darned full of rage to care about writing anything coherent or even grammatically correct. Personally, I’m going to adopt this new catchy phrase and start telling people to “Grow some bob, loooooser!” (note liberal use of the letter “o”), Soon everyone will be using it.
As for you Scott, I believe you have demonstrated serious bob(s) in calling out “Adam”. Want some free courtside tickets for Friday’s game as a small token for your efforts?
by 14ersFan on Apr 23, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Thanks for clarifying on the “grow some bob.”
Scary thing, upon an IP lookup, is that this outstanding citizen actually posted from the Denver metro area. This seems to be either somebody Coach MacKinnon has already layed the smackdown upon, or just a hater of my humble abode.
As for the tickets, I appreciate it, but I don’t think I’ll be making it down to Colorado. Currently, I’ve got a nice little Saturday planned and I have to be back Saturday. We’re going to Home Depot to pick out some wallpaper, then maybe we’ll hit Bed Bath and Beyond… I don’t know! I don’t know if we’ll have enough time!
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you RU?
Every once in a while it is nice to have real life evidence as to why close relatives shouldn’t marry and have offspring…thanks for providing it for us Adam.
Utah did not hold their home court and they were already at the disadvantage…Bob Mac will be in basketball long after Brandtley and his blog are long gone.
by Rumble on Apr 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the nicknaming Rumble
your posts continue to amaze me….including the rant up there ^^
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumble belongs in the RU HoF
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am but a simple man...
…undeserving of any accolades. I am happy in RU that there is a place where the “DLeaguers of Society” can congregate without being laughed at.
Ice, if my nickname ability were 10% as good as your photoshop skills then maybe we would have something.
Speaking of the unsung among us, one of the downsides of actively rooting against the dot.com bubble Flash is that puts me on the other side of DJ, the ultimate Flash fan. Trust me, you don’t know the meaning of the word “fan” until you see young dude rolling around your arena concourse is a Flash uniform made of duct tape advertising his blog. While his owner jets around the world, proposes real estate developments/basketball arenas that he needs to admit are never going to be built and calls out hard working basketball coaches/teams in his blog, DJ travels to road games, sleeps in his car and constantly refines his jersey offerings depending on who gets called up.
So Scotty, while you are in Home Depot this weekend, pick up a roll of duct tape in honor of our man DJ. He proves that all is not wrong in that place we call Utah.
Rumble
by Rumble on Apr 23, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do love hearing
about a duct-tape jersey. That’s phenomenal fandom. Also in that clip you posted of Brandt, I love how he refers to Frank Gehry (a world renouned architect and fabulously successful/innovative designer) as merely “Frank.” As though Frank Gehry is his poker buddy, what a schlub.
And I second your RU HOF nomination. Actually I think two nominations are all you need, so you’re in the HOF now.
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ in person with his duct tape finery...
…looks like a knight at the Roundtable. That thing wears like medieval armor. Make sure you read his blog and check out his mid game changing of clothes to almost bring Utah back to victory…
How much bad karma does Brandt have to generate to offset DJs good karma?? Like a nuclear power plants worth?
Frankie Gee (which is what call him) is stopping by my basement while on his way to Bilbao to see if we can squeeze in an extra sink…feel free to stop by and meet him if you like. Dude will hang with just about anybody.
by Rumble on Apr 23, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha I would Rumble
But I’m spending the afternoon with Frank Loyd Wright’s grandson, he’s installing some light fixtures for me.
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't live in North Dakota
and thank God for that. And I wrote that post, not Scott…..I deserve some credit here!!! Look at me too too Adam!!! I’m a busy man!!!
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
No more North Dakota bashing, please.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I just hate when things get personal here.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed....
and you have yet to take swipes at the dirty rednecks who inhabit my state….other than imagining I look like this guy
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually..
I imagine you look like this guy if that’s not in fact you, Jessy Leppert Iceman. Singing a song made famous by your Idol, Double J Jeff Jarrett, is just so typical of your behavior.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are so much more knowledgable
than I am about mid-90’s wrestling superstars. I was too busy playing little league and street hockey.
by Aisander D on Apr 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in North Dakota
It got cold at 9pm on Monday’s.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
As a newbie, I’m reluctant to have this be my first post, but I have season tickets to the Utah Flash, row 2 by the vistor’s bench and without a doubt MacKinnon is the biggest donkey I’ve seen on that vistor’s row.
I can’t speak to how he behaves elsewhere, but in Utah he was such a baby that he embarrassed his own players. More than once in his tantrums players would look out into the crowd and watch us watch him, and sometimes they’d shake their heads in embarrassment.
That’s an observation, that’s all.
As for a feud, I think that would be tremendously childish.
Utah has only had a d-league team for 2 years so I don’t have much to go on, but from what I have seen there is a tremendous amount of turnover with these teams.
Having players “go to war” for the pride of coaches and owners makes about as much sense as Greece and Troy going to war over Helen.
These guys just want to win, to grow as players, and show case what they can do to any NBA types that might be paying attention.
Speaking of NBA types, it is more than a little ANNOYING that the Utah Jazz called up Kosta Koufos just before the playoffs, and aren’t even seating Koufos on the bench much less playing him.
It would be better for Koufos to get playoff experience — even if it is d-league — than to be watching the Jazz from a television set somewhere. Of course, it would be better for the Utah Flash too; he was a key part of the victories the Flash had over the 14ers in the regular season.
Again, I’m a newbie and this is my first post on this VERY interesting site, but let me make it clear again: I think the whole feud thing is laughably juvenile and I don’t plan to get pulled into it in any way shape or form… I’m just passing on what I personally observed about MacKinnon here in Utah.
Incidentally, in the same limited appearances, I’m impressed with Sonny Weems. He seems like a genuinely good guy. Between quarters they do things here to keep the fans attention, and I noticed that when a few 6 year olds (or so) were having a “dance off” at center court, Sonny was watching, smiling, bobbing his head and was in a cool way supportive of the youngsters.
Also, there was another 14er, a big (I can’t remember his name) who smiled and playfully dealt with a rather loud and obnoxious Utah fan in a way that impressed all of us who noticed.
I also like how MacKinnon stole every opportunity he could to coach, calling over back court players during free throws for example, to give them instructions.
Seems like the 14ers have some really good guys; hopefully MacKinnon will join the civilized world soon.
Oh, one last thing:
MacKinnon was lobbying the scores table about something, I couldn’t quite hear it, and when he got done a ref came over and told the guys at the scorer’s table, “Just pretend that guy is your ex-girlfirend and don’t listen to him.”
Obviously it’s not just Brant Anderson and the Utah Fans that are tired of how MacKinnon behaves.
by Basketballogy on Apr 25, 2009 4:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for stopping by
While I didn’t write this post, I don’t think it was saying that there was a feud. It’s simply looking at how childish Mr. Andersen was with this subject. Even if Coach MacKinnon is as bad as Utahan’s and D-League officials say he is, the correct way to alert the league is not a poorly written blog post. I’m sure you’ll agree that Brandt didn’t exhibit any professionalism with this situation.
I do agree with you about Koufos. He has been in a suit on the Jazz bench rather than watching on TV, but it does make sense that he should have had an opportunity to play in the postseason, either with the Jazz or the Flash.
Explain “VERY interesting”.
The entire Colorado team seems very professional/friendly. Only problem I had with the Flash this year is Kyrylo Fesenko on that matter.
I don’t think Coach MacKinnon is ‘uncivilized.’ You admit that you had limited dealings with him, and only in Utah. That said, with that and overhearing a D-League official, it’s probably going out on a limb to say that he needs to join the civilized world.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chi
[Laughing] It is not going out on a limb to say MacKinnon’s behavior here was uncivilized.
I’m not sure if you understand how badly behaved MacKinnon was here; if MacKinnon wouldn’t have been in a sports setting and behaved how he did, he might have been arrested.
I’m not kidding or exaggerating, he was an embarrassment to the game of basketball to say the least. He certainly was embarrassing his own players. MacKinnon made Bobby Knight look like Mother Teresa. I would never let him coach my kids, nor would I hire him to coach a team I owned.
Make no mistake: MacKinnon was DEFINITELY uncivilized that night. And it came so easily to him that it makes it hard to believe he hasn’t behaved that way anywhere else.
Because Brandt’s childish behavior was put in a blog, you are able to observe first hand how childish Anderson has behaved and be down on him, but just because you didn’t witness first hand MacKinnon here does not mean he wasn’t a donkey here. That is beyond question.
I can appreciate that you are reluctant to believe it happened, but I saw it happen, as did scores of others — probably more.
Consequently, I’m okay with Brandt calling out MacKinnon for MacKinnons truly appalling behavior here in Utah. After all, there are so many witnesses to MacKinnon’s childish tantrums it’s not like it was a secret. But it should have ended there.
Brandt didn’t cross the line when he called out MacKinnon on things that actually happened, Brandt crossed the line when he didn’t let it go and continued to stew about it, publicly flogging MacKinnon and ratcheting up the spat.
So now it’s become nasty and childish, but intriguing all the same, as evidenced by its posting here and the discussion attached to it.
We all say we hate the dirty laundry, yet here we all are.
As for Koufos, he wasn’t at the 2 games in L.A. that I could tell, he was just at the 1 home game in SLC.
As for what I meant when I wrote “VERY interesting,..” Passion is a two edged sword. It’s great that this zeal has resulted in a site dedicated to minor league basketball, I love it, but then again, that when that passion spills out on people, it can be off putting.
We’ll see how it all sorts out I guess.
by Basketballogy on Apr 25, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks again for stopping by
I did write this post and I think you’ve gotten the point of this whole topic: this scenario is laughably stupid and immature. Coach MacKinnon defintitely did not display proper professionalism during that one game, but Brandt calling him out also took it a step too far. I’ve got nothing against the Utah Flash, just against ludicrous situations like this one that are overflowing with unintentional comedy.
Please comment more……and do explain “VERY interesting.” I’m hoping I don’t have to go Brandt on you.
by Aisander D on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughing!
If Anderson took it a step too far, and I agree he did, then MacKinnon took it a step beyond too far by keeping it going.
In addition to MacKinnon’s bad behavior in TWO games (but yes, they were on the same night), rather than apologize for his behavior, or at least letting the emotions die down, he went out and called the Utah Flash “cheaters” and that the 14ers will “easily beat the Flash again.”
Wow. Really? Has this guy left middle school yet? Because that was just so juvenile.
Both Anderson and MacInnon need to let this go and move on, and it is a shame they haven’t, but I’m not sure the reaction here is any better behaved than they have been. Why Anderson is the only one getting heat for this on this site. MacInnon is definitely doing his part to keep their spat going.
Don’t be so quick to dismiss what the refs said about MacKinnon; MacKinnon was seriously abusive and should have been ejected. You guys obviously don’t think much of Anderson, but at least he has never crossed that line.
Anyway, I wish one of them would publicly apologize and say let bygones be bygones, and the other would reciprocate and it would all be ancient history.
As for what I meant by VERY interesting, this site looks like a place I’d like to hang out at next season for the information and enthusiasm for the d-league that you can find here, but then again it appears things can be, uh, shall we say acutely partisan, and I am a fan of the game first, then of teams and players second. I haven’t decided how I’d fit in here yet.
But there’s a lot of cool stuff to read here, so at the least I might be a silent lurker. Sounds sinister, doesn’t it? Wa ha ha ha ha!
by Basketballogy on Apr 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't lurk...
we’re accepting of all viewpoints. Well, except those that are totally unable to see the other side once in awhile.
And on that note I see what you are saying, and I think generally we are in agreement, the whole situation is/was ridiculous. And not in an Upside kind of way, rather in the Downside kind of way.
by Aisander D on Apr 25, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Yeah, I agree we generally agree.
As for accepting view points, I’ve read the site a bit more now and I am reassured about that.
I (mistakenly) thought that all this Anti-Anderson talk was coming from an anti-Flash sentiment, which made me wonder if I’d feel welcome here.
Now I know Anderson was over the top not just about MacKinnon, but about Scott… so now this discussion makes more sense to me.
BTW, I am really from Alaska, born and raised. I’m living in Utah temporarily while our kids are going to college here so we can all be together longer and we can help them in school, and while we are here, I’m doing my best to enjoy the amenities here that I cannot back home.
In other words, I do like the home team, definitely, but I like the game WAY more and love it when I see greatness in opposing teams and players as well. Hopefully none of that is lost on me and I’m juiced about them as much as I am the Flash.
And I LOVE it when I see former D-leaguers doing well in the NBA, regardless the teams they played for before.
by Basketballogy on Apr 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright
MacKinnon hasn’t made any public statements about it, that’s why nothing has been covered from that viewpoint. He hasn’t called anybody out, he didn’t even know about the blog until this afternoon. I guess I’m not as willing to read into what Brandt says about anyone on his blog, as he called myself out for having a low basketball IQ. He makes some pretty broad assumptions.
I like Andersen, I’ve said as much in earlier comments. He’s a great businessman. I just don’t agree with him calling people out on his blog.
Acutely partisan? Please go back and read the archives. I can find something good and bad about each team. So you know, I live in Bismarck, North Dakota and therefore, I attend most Wizard games. I’m not exclusively a Wizards fan and have said when I don’t like what they’ve done. Nobody here is really a fan of any certain team, besides the aptly named TorosGirl. Please read the archives if you have any doubts that we’ve got certain favorites. Of course, over the course of a season, I’ve developed favorites (and have always had an affinity for big white basketball players).
Don’t lurk.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Really?
Do I understand you correctly that Brandt said you have a low basketball IQ in his blog? Wow, I didn’t know that. Okay, I’m starting to swing hard to your point of view on this. That’s pretty Mark Cuban and I don’t like that at all.
And my apologies about the “partisan” comment. I assumed your anti-Anderson sentiment came from being Colorado fans, but I see now that this isn’t the case.
You see what I’m saying?
I thought the passion was coming from somewhere else, I didn’t realize Brandt had taken you on personally. Consequently, let me apologize in advance for some of what I just wrote above as well. I didn’t know.
I think I’m going to like it here! :-)
by Basketballogy on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Full disclosure:
He took offense to me writing this:
There’s a new Jazz/Flash blog in the blogosphere run by Spencer Ryan Hall, who has also written for FreeDarko, so you know it’s going to be great… Spencer doesn’t let me down, as he summed up my thoughts on Brandt Andersen’s recent outburst perfectly… The Flash’s bench isn’t very deep, but big James Lang would seem to deserve more than the five minutes he got last game..
By saying this:
“You wouldn’t want the readers questioning your basketball IQ-good time to hedge those words.”
Had he emailed me, or called me, it would have been different. Rather, he just put it on his blog, seemingly looking to start something.
So that’s where my love for Brandt ended. He seems to be more about bringing things up in public (the MacKinnon thing, my smalltime blog) rather than confronting people about it.
Is this worth what I’ve said about Brandt? I don’t know. I haven’t really said anything about him, and did email him to tell him congrats when their bench depth showed, but he never replied.
If you like it here, stick around. We’re good people. If not, thanks for checking us out!
Blogging at RidiculousUpside
by Scott Schroeder on Apr 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basketballogy...
I am a fan of the Idaho Stampede and because of that, I am a de facto fan of the DLeague. This site, run by Scott and Jon, has made for an excellent place for like minded people to congregate and share news/gossip and viewpoints.
Like any competitive organization, there is always dirty laundry that the casual fan would not be aware of. Idaho has their share of under the surface issues and some of it does not reflect well on anyone involved (see: Moser, Clay). I am sure that each franchise has much of the same.
The main difference between those situations and the situation of one Brandt Andersen is Brandt chose to make his “feud” public. Zero detail as to what his exact beef was. Continual writing about said incident(s). Seemingly zero effort speak directly and proactively with the person it was directed to (as per this site, Coach Mac had no idea that Brandt had a problem). And as for a congratulations to the 14ers for beating his Flash – as of this very moment – nada on the Brandt website.
I don’t doubt that Coach Mac was not happy about his night in Utah. But I cut him slack because he is paid to win, doesn’t have “real estate” deals to fall back on and let’s face – it, I would bet that there is much chance that the error that occurred was partially due to the officials crew that night.
Brandt on the other hand…has lost a lot of credibility with this. I am sure that he really doesn’t care what I think – but I am a pretty level headed person that has been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt even when in blew into Boise to sit at midcourt without his socks. An owners job is to own – not make oneself the center of controversy. It detracts from the league and more importantly it detracts from the game itself.
Sigh…
Rumble
by Rumble on Apr 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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