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Ridiculous Transactions

Hello!  I hope you're enjoying your weekend.  Today we debut a new (hopefully-) recurring series of posts detailing transactions for the previous week.  What kind of transactions?  I plan to mainly focus on, well, the type of players this site focuses on.  That means a lot of D-League players and teams, but also players who previously played in the D-League but are now in Europe, players who saw some action at this year's Summer League, and maybe the occasional recent draft pick or player.  This isn't meant to be comprehensive with the European signings (I'm not looking to compete with Ball in Europe), nor will the bulk of NBA trades and free agent signings be covered.  Sorry, Andre Miller.  I will, however, be providing some brief commentary below all (or most) of the transactions listed.  This is a new feature, so any suggestions on what you'd like to see format- or content-wise is welcome.  So here we go, with a look at "Ridiculous Transactions" for July 17-June 24.

July 17: Cartier Martin - signed with Treviso (Italy)

Martin played decently in Summer League for Golden State, doing a good job of getting to the free-throw line and not turning the ball over much, but he made only a quarter of his three-pointers, and needed one good game to get up to even that mark.  Martin played for Iowa in the D-League last season, and since he can score, he should do well over in Italy.

July 18: Marc Salyers - signed with LeMans (France)

Salyers has been in Europe for a few years where he's a terrific scorer, and while he played for the Hornets' Summer League team, he never really got his shot to fall consistently in Vegas.  He has a variety of offensive moves but little defense or rebounding, so Europe is probably where he belongs.

July 20: Nick Lewis - signed with Roanne (France); Sergiy Gladyr - signed with Manresa (Spain)

Lewis effectively replaces Salyers, who played with Roanne last year.  Lewis is late of the Bakersfield Jam, where he showed some decent if inconsistent rebounding ability.  He fancies himself somewhat of a three-point shooter, and he made almost 38 percent of them last year, decent for a 6'10" guy I suppose, but that number was quite a bit higher than his career mark, and I have doubts as to whether he'll sustain it.  Gladyr was a second-round pick by the Atlanta Hawks in the most recent draft, and he's a shooting guard with emphasis on the "shooting."  Some have questions as to whether he's athletic enough for the NBA, though pre-draft reports were decent on that front.

July 21: Jimmy Baron - signed with Mersin (Turkey); Dakota Wizards - hired Rory White as head coach

We've already discussed White's hiring, so let's turn to Baron.  Baron was a very good three-point shooting in college, though he's a bit like Blake Ahearn in that he's "point guard-sized" without having a lot of point guard skills (though Ahearn is obviously a bit ahead on that since he's had longer to work on them).  Baron got invites to both the Orlando and Vegas Summer Leagues, though he didn't play much for the Jazz and Washington cut him before they actually got to Vegas.  This is probably a case where he could go to the D-League and have a chance to work on the non-shooting parts of his game, but I'm sure he'll get a chance to get his shooting on in Turkey.

July 22: Christian Eyenga - had his contract with DKV Joventut (Spain) extended for three more years; Maine Red Claws - hired Austin Ainge as head coach

Again, we've covered Ainge's hire.  Eyenga was the Cavaliers' first-round draft pick this year, and I find it interesting to think about his situation in the context of the Cavs' roster.  Clearly Cleveland is trying to win as soon as possible - they made the conference finals this year, and LeBron James is under contract for just one more season.  But what happens should James re-sign with Cleveland?  I wonder if he'll allow Cleveland to keep drafting players like Eyenga in an attempt to adopt at least part of what could short-handedly be called the "Spurs model," or whether he'll keep saying "I've never heard of these guys, I want you to sign Joe Smith again."  The Cavs aren't on the hook for Eyenga's salary or anything, but it will be interesting to see how they use the draft if James is under a long-term contract again.

July 23: Bobby Jones - signed with Banco Tercas Teramo (Italy); Gerry McNamara - named as Grad Assistant for Syracuse University

Remember when Jones was going to get called up by the 76ers?  Whatever happened with that?  Jones may feel that if he had gotten that close without making it in the D-League he has nothing left to play for here, but I do wonder how a primarily-defensive player such as Jones will fare over in Italy.  Then again, I also wonder why I didn't see him on any Summer League roster.  Jones is a decent scorer, so he'll probably be fine, but I do think he still could have made his mark in the D-League and gotten a call-up.  Gerry McNamara was last seen being released from his D-League contract for "personal reasons," and whether it's related or not he seems to be headed for the coaching route.

July 24: Ryan Forehan-Kelly - signed with Scafati (Italy); Dominique Coleman - signed with Dexia Mons-Hainaut (Belgium)

Forehan-Kelly has been all over the place, playing in China, Venezuela, Mexico, Croatia and with the Los Angeles D-Fenders.  Europe is probably the best place for him, as he's decent at several things (including three-point shooting) but wasn't really among the top few tiers of D-League players who could've seen a call-up.  Coleman, well, this is slightly disappointing.  Regular readers (which I think is TorosGirl and the people currently writing for the site) know that I was a big fan of Coleman's last year, and he does a lot of things very well, including defend and rebound.  Hopefully he makes his way back to the States at some point, as I think he could develop into a solid NBA bench player.

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It wasn't a bad pick all things considered

Any team would’ve been hard-pressed to find an impact player with the 30th pick in this year’s draft. Add to that the fact that they didn’t want/need to clutter their roster with a player who won’t be able to contribute in a meaningful way this year. If LeBron James sticks around, then they can start over afresh next year (to a certain extent) and start developing bench players. If he doesn’t, then they have the luxury to take their time in building their roster.

Ridiculous Upside, where the D-League is better than your favorite team, as objectively determined by Summer League.

by Jon L on Jul 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bobby jones

im almost positive he was on some summer league team… maybe in orlando? anyone wanna check?

by enron4515 on Jul 26, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm drunk

but I think Portland

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by Scott Schroeder on Jul 26, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=bobby_ray_jones

He wasn’t terribly efficient, costing Bayless some assists. I think it’s safe to predict he won’t make our roster next season with already a minute crunch at small forward and shooting guard. There was an outside chance Pooh Jeter would get an invitation to training camp also as a local story, but after the signing of Andre Miller it would probably just be as a practice player. He just is very small by NBA standards and his shot, handles and speed are not exceptional enough to make up for this. And at 25 not that much room for improvement. I rather see a career at a good European club.

by Norsktroll on Jul 26, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was safe to say Jones wouldn’t get a spot, duh.

by Norsktroll on Jul 26, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

I don’t know a.) why I never noticed him in any of the boxscores, and b.) why I didn’t check and make sure before I wrote that.

Ridiculous Upside, where the D-League is better than your favorite team, as objectively determined by Summer League.

by Jon L on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cross-post from Mavs Moneyball: Sarunas Jasikevicius extends with Panathinaikos Athens

This means a lot less minutes for unsigned Mavs draft pick Nick Calathes behind Greek-standout Dimitris Diamantidis and Jasikevicius. Both are tall players who can play both guard spots, like Calathes. And on SG there is also Drew Nicholas and Vassilis Spanoulis.

It’s a bit of the same problem that Jennings had last year: He selected a team that is too good.

by Norsktroll on Jul 26, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous Transactions

You made the comment that Ryan Forehan-Kelly was “really not among the top few tiers of D-League players”. Really? Check the stats for forwards last year. He led the league in 3 point shooters with over 14 attempts (Kasib Powell 35th, Gary Forbes 21st, Jesper Johnson 10th, Brent Petway 77th), was 5th in steals (Powell 8th, Forbes 34th, Johnson 6th and Petway 68th), 7th in assists (Powell 4th, Forbes 8th, Johnson 13th, Petway 52nd), 17th in 48 minute efficiency (Powell 21st, Forbes 27th, Johnson 8th, Petway 73rd), 27th in field goal % (Powell 46th, Forbes 43rd, Johnson 47th, Petway 32nd), 27th in free throw percentage (Powell 46th, Forbes 43rd, Johnson 47th, Petway 32nd), 43rd in Points/Rebounds/Assists (Powell 18th, Forbes 24th, Johnson 10th, Petway 63rd) and had the lowest turnovers of the group.

I only compared him to the others as you had several feature stories about them but never a mention of Forehan-Kelly. This business is all politics and PR and kissing Chris Alperts ass.. Maybe you could do some research and see that Ryan is perhaps a little better than your characterization of “not a top tier guy”. It was only after he became a starter in LA that the Defenders started beating some people late in the season that went to the playoffs. It was not a coincidence that he was top scorer in those wins. If you do not believe me, call Chucky Brown and Dan Pannaggio for confirmation.

by gpralph on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright, let's see if I can take this point-by-point.

First of all, thanks for taking the time to comment. It’s clear you care a lot about this.

So Forehan-Kelly was the 27th-best field goal shooter among forwards? And 27th in free throw percentage? and 43rd in combined points, rebounds and assists? I’m sorry, but I don’t really consider any of those to be “top-tier.” You’ll notice that I complimented his three-point shooting and his versatility, but the numbers really don’t bear out saying Forehan-Kelly as a top-20 D-League player last season, which is what I consider to be the top two tiers. Perhaps your definition of “tier” is different than mine, and you’re free do define it however you want, but the fact is that Forehan-Kelly was never really close to getting an NBA call-up, which is another measure of a D-League player’s talent.

Second, you could not be more wrong about this site being a place for PR and D-League politics. I actually had to look up who Chris Alpert was. I have never written or not written anything at the request of the league. Also, why would the league care about who we characterize as a top player? The guys who are good are the guys who are good. If their job is to publicize the league, why would it make sense for them to suppress information about someone who’s playing well?

Finally, it’s true that the D-Fenders won four of their last six games, all of which had Forehan-Kelly in the starting lineup, but he didn’t really play many more minutes in those games than he had when he was coming off the bench.

All this is not to say that I don’t think Forehan-Kelly’s a good player. I do. He contributes in several areas and is a good three-point shooter. However, in terms of overall talent and likelihood of making the NBA, he just wasn’t at the top last year.

Ridiculous Upside, where the D-League is better than your favorite team, as objectively determined by Summer League.

by Jon L on Jul 29, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous Upside

Fair enough. If your top tier is 20 and above, tell me how Coleman Collins, Gary Forbes, and Will Frisby are the forwards that played on the the “D-League Select” team for the NBA Summer League. I will give you Jasper Johnson who met your criteria. Who picked that team? Check out Coleman Collins stats. He was not in the top 40 in anything. So what is it, luck, skill, the team you played on or ?

by gpralph on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The D-League picked that team

with no input from anyone here. I agree at there are better players than some that were on the Select team, but a lot of them played for other NBA teams. Again, I don’t talk to the league so I don’t’ know how those decisions were made. What the D-League thinks and what this blog thinks are two separate things.

Ridiculous Upside, where the D-League is better than your favorite team, as objectively determined by Summer League.

by Jon L on Jul 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The D-League Picked that team

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I’m glad there is a level of professionalism in your blog. I sent Dan Reed the same question regarding how the team was picked. He has the power to pick and choose who he responds to, and the silence was deafening. It would be interesting to see the names of the agents for each of the “select” team members and if Chris Alpert has them on speed dial. THANKS and keep up this website.

by gpralph on Jul 29, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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