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Tulsa 66ers @ Rio Grande Valley Vipers: NBA D-League Finals Game 2 Preview

Every D-League playoff series has gone three games thus far.  Can the Vipers buck the trend?

The pivotal game 2 of the NBA Development League championship series happens tonight with Rio Grande Valley up one-to-nothin' on the Tulsa 66ers.  There is no way to watch the game live even though Futurecast's headline is "Watch all games free on Futurecast," which annoys me to no end, so we will more than likely have the two-man live blog going again when the game hits VERSUS at 11pm CT - or whenever the hockey postgame stuff gets done.

Game 1 was won by the Vipers 124-107 in Tulsa - and it's only going to get easier in front of the RGV faithful back in Hidalgo.  We've given you the match-up breakdowns (and I assume that Cecil Brown will be re-inserted into the starting lineup tonight if healthy after missing game 1 with an ankle injury), explained how each team made it to the Finals and even broke down the regular season match-ups so there isn't really much else to give as far as a backstory goes.

Therefore, I'll tell you what needs to happen in the future ( as in tonight) for each team if they want to either sweep the series (Vipers) or hang on for game 3 (66ers).

Star-divide

First, for Tulsa since this game is more important to them:

  1. Make buckets: Really, Scott? This is your answer to the 66ers problems?  Yes, guy, yes it is.  Simply put, had Tulsa been able to shoot the way they were on their way to the Finals, Sunday's game would have been much closer than it turned out to be.  Consider that the 66ers had been shooting 46% from three-point territory throughout their first two playoff series.  Then consider that they made just 9-of-28 (32.1%) last game with the bench missing 10-of-14.  If Tulsa can't kill RGV from beyond the arc, they're not going to kill, or even beat, RGV.
  2. Keep Mike Harris off the floor: Easier said than done, of course, but they were able to do it in game 1 - so there is hope.  I hate the strategy, but if Deron Washington just keeps running toward the hoop whenever Harris is defending him, he's bound to pick up a few foul calls.  Why do I say that? Washington's attempted 33 free-throws in his last two games - he's going to get calls.  Since Harris is otherwise immortal, that is the only way to do it.
  3. Help Larry Owens! Just do it.  He's good, he makes me swoon and he had 13 points in the first quarter alone last game, but he can't do it all.  Deron Washington and Wink Adams (the starting backcourt combined to make just 8-of-27 from the field in game 1), this means you.
  4. Bonus: Transition defense - know it, love it, implement it.  If you're going to miss long jumpers and then not get back on defense, I'm going to be disappointed.
  5. LATAVIOUS WILLIAMS.

And now for Rio Grande Valley:

  1. Keep Mike Harris on the floor. While the Vipers were able to win game 1 without Harris on the floor for much of the second and third quarters, that's not really a strategy they can bank on with how vital he has been in some RGV games.  I'm not sure how to guarantee Harris is kept on the floor, but I would plan to keep him on Larry Owens instead of Deron Washington since Harris isn't as adept to running toward the basket.  Yep.  Have Harris defend the other teams best player who also plays under control. That should keep him out of foul trouble, right?
  2. Keep up the perimeter defense.  If Tulsa's willing to keep forcing shots even though they're well-defended, let them keep doing it.  Sound simple? It's because it is.  Just play defense.  With a couple of solid perimeter defenders, I don't expect this to change from game 1.
  3. Get another big game from the other guys: As Matthew Brennan the Prospect Watch points out, it's kind of important that guys like Julian Sensley and Idaho's finest, Ernest Scott, are able to produce as well as they did in game 1.  This game, I'll predict that Jonathan Wallace and Stanley Asumnu have randomly good games.

Prediction: I don't know how, or why, but I'm taking Tulsa in the upset.  Maybe Mustafa Shakur randomly returns, maybe Cecil Brown makes nine three-pointers or maybe I'm writing this too late at night but I've decided that every series is going to go three games.

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I am sure Ernest appreciates...

…the fact that he is most known for his two stints on the Idaho Stampede and his honorary native son status.

I got my rant in last game over this Versus debacle so I will spare the comments and I promise not to hop on and leave messages that ruin it for those of you that are abstaining from information.

Vipes close it out tonight…

by Rumble on Apr 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to not make it confusing, D-League.

As seen on their site, not five minutes ago:


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by Jon L on Apr 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome

Gotta love it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 27, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just so eveyone that looks at this is clear

I will kill them if they come in telling me who won.
Thanx!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 27, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's coming on in a minute

They didn’t say exactly 11:59, did they?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tibbetts board

Featured a quote from Dwyane Wade. Neat.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Am I by myself tonight?

Where’s Jon L!?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm here now.

I had some minor internet connection problems but I should be good to go.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God.

I just went on Twitter to ask where you were, which was risky since I’ve managed to not find anything out about this game.

Had to turn my phone off even.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cecil Brown back in the starting lineup!

I don’t know what this is going to mean.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Prediction: Larry Owens eats everyone's lunch.

I have no basis for this.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

No, you're thinking of Marcus Lewis.

Owens is kind of a skinny guy.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jasper Johnson?

Somewhere in China….

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's a shapeshifter

Remember when you posted that picture of him when he was reallly skinny and I didn’t believe it was him, then it was actually him?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

He took his wardrobe cue from Quin Snyder.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit.

Now SBN is giving me problems.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cecil Brown has good size?

Don’t believe you, non-Muss.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

And Larry Owens

Tulsa’s going to win this thing!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Please tell me Sensley is Australian?

doesn’t make sense otherwise.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Hawaiian

He’s an avid surfer.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I can buy that.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of you

Neck tats and all.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I forgot, he;s my cousin.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing Jon lost internet again

So I’ll point out that Deron Washington’s first FG attempt was the patented drive-and-flail-fail.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Perfected that at Vrginia Tech.

He’s also really good at kicking people on the floor after a foul.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I submit

that a turnaround fall-away jumper is not the best shot Tulsa could’ve gotten there.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Welcome back!!!

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

They did to start the game

I have no idea why they didn’t decide to keep doing it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

But really

Tulsa doesn’t counter with much size.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nate's a pimp

Also he’s from South Dakota.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like th same state as NoDak.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it isn't

But close. It’s just South of NoDak.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gray suit, white shirt, no tie

is straight out of the Quin Snyder playbook.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that one playoff game

Where Quin went with blue suit, blue shirt, no tie?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Practically stole this number.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

And dribbles for 20+ seconds....

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't seem like a point guard

I haven’t watched him enough, but he seems to not know what to do as offense-initiator.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will Conroy is a story teller.

among other things.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

That was gross

Rich Melzer.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Paul Millsap with 3-point range

Wow – I can’t disagree with you.
If he bulked up a bit, he could be that in the NBA, too.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deron Washington = Brittney Griner?


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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

No disrespect to her...mainly him.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Then yes.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh great

Now Hardin is going to try and block every other three-pointer from now on. I mean, he probably was anyway, but still.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I was just typing he'll have another block and 2 fouls

before the quarter ends. He already has the block.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

The skill-sets are definitely similar

Hardin’s just not as good and three years older.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Back in the day

I really thought he could be a Serge Ibaka-type player, but he hasn’t been good in the D-League.
The Thunder still have his rights, which could make things interesting… someday.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

and then three more fouls in ten minutes.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's foul prone

That’s about it. His defense is a little over-aggressive to the point that he picks up fouls ALL the time.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did almost this exact same thing in game one

He had two blocks in his first few minutes of playing time, then finished with five fouls in 15 minutes. It’s the good and bad of DeVon Hardin, trying to block everything.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell?

Who is this DeVon Hardin guy? 2 blocks and a steal in a minute-ish?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was weird

Was that really a clean strip? It looked like he hooked Conroy’s arm.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Marine Mechanics Inst. Commercial is too good.

I need some 70’s animation for a utility company.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I like putting Anderson on Owens

He’s quick enough to keep up with him and about the same size.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Anderson on the other team's best player

Almost all the time. In the D-League he can defend most 4’s too.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m gonna go ahead and say JaJuan Smith can’t guard Will Conroy.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Neither can Cecil Brown.

I wish Mustafa Shakur would’ve been assigned.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if he can put the ball on the floor

But that’s probably a good comparison from their first professional years.
Interestingly enough, they’re both out of Starkville, Mississippi.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

So they forced Muss to work the floor interviews?

Lame.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

He's versatile

But they could probably use a D-League Erin Andrews.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

DeVon Hardin has terrible hands.

He’d be a much better rebounder if he could just hold onto the ball.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I know I knock Hardin a lot

because truthfully he’s been pretty bad this year, but he does look a lot better than he did at the beginning of the year.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tiny Hands?

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on.

If you’re going to go with that reference, at least go with the original

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair Enough.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, I got told.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has moments

If only he could be consistent…

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad Muss is calling out JaJuan Smith

His shot selection is terrible.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Ha

I don’t know Bobby Brown’s shot selection (I prefer to remember him from his dominant Summer League 2008 performance), but his game has some Pargo brothers in it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

LATAVIOUS WILLIAMS

Gotta love that mid-range. How long has he had that, Jon? When did you first point it out?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure.

I think the first time I noticed it was that crazy 20-something point comeback they had against Austin towards the end of the season, but it had been awhile since I’d seen Tulsa at that point. So…at least a month.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's been developed

I’m drafting him.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

I would love to see Moses Ehambe have that kind of game again tonight. It was pretty great.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Is this a private party or is there room for one more?

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Come, hang out.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of private

Unless you can name four of the CBA coaches from the 2008-09 season, you’re not allowed in.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I probably should leave, then.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one can do that except you.

And those coaches.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well maybe not the coaches either.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

I know Carlos Knox was an almost…

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I count him as a coach

He was a CBA coach when the schedule came out, right?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alpert shaved his goatee

I guess it’s time for me to shave mine too.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought you had an unkempt neckbeard.

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by Aisander D on Apr 28, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quit stalking me.

And it’s kempt.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should just keep running that play.

“Latavious Williams cuts to the basket and dunks.”

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

See?

That wasn’t a dunk, but still.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could be the next Will Voight

As long as there’s another fan vote this season, you’re in there like swimwear.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I just have to come out with my best, you know, whatever.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be REALLY disappointing

If he doesn’t get drafted.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he gets drafted in 2nd rd and reassigned again next year

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems that'd be the best thing for him

OKC has, I think, the 53rd pick. They’ll probably draft and stash like Hardin.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

perfect situation for them. they’ll have a full rotation already but he’ll be close for call ups should they need him

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just you

Deron Washington isn’t the best finisher, he typically goes to the rim hoping to get a foul call. He didn’t then, which kind of surprised me.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Latavious Williams

Why do they keep saying he can play small forward? What am I missing?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

SF

like Gerald Wallace is a small forwad, I guess

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Nate

It’s time to have the “quit shooting” talk with Deron Washington. If he’s not getting the calls, he’s not going to be effective.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't even check to see who the refs are

lest I learn the outcome. Thanks, D-League.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Cutler

I haven’t paid attention to the other 2. Looks like Ben Taylor maybe?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taylor didn't work game 1 I don't think

so that would make sense.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

already know the score so here

Officials: #33 JT Orr, #34 Kevin Cutler, #36 Brent Barnaky

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry JT Orr

I apologize for mixing you up with Little Ben.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would Barnaky be the other maybe?

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

the league probably would prefer that I not look to see who the refs are.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Fitzgerald is a lot better tonight.

He’s still no Peter Young, though.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Muss was able to catch him up

He can coach both players AND announcers, now.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lawton

Scott & for anyone else who cares. Lawton won the PBL championship tonight. MRR’s 3rd straight title

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Without the Big O!

And I’m sure it’s in my Google Alerts, but I’ve had to stay off Gmail tonight too.
I have to discount Michael Ray’s 2009 CBA title, though. Minot was coming for it if we would’ve had playoffs.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always wondered why he hasn't stuck in the D-League

He’s been in and out a couple of times.
Him and Brandon Dean are a pretty dangerous minor league backcourt.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rimrockers?

Dean was a backup on the Rimrockers teams in their first season in the dleague right?

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barely

Played three games. Iowa picked him up last year, I think, but I don’t see any of those stats.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

they platooned 3 pgs… bowden, Brandon Dean & Shaun Fountain.

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Forgot about Fountain

That’s not bad.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Reed Bot Activated

40 call-ups
27 players
1 in 5 players in the NBA…1 in 5 players in the NBA…1 in 5 players in the NBA…

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh you're able to show your games live, are you?

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Just not when bull riding/hockey/paid programming is on.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since it's tape delay...

Do we really need to waste all of this time for halftime?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:31 AM EDT reply actions  

at least

they don’t say… due to time constraints let’s fast forward and rejoin the game in the 4th

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

There is no reason why Tulsa couldn’t have gotten that rebound. Deron Washington can jump higher than pretty much everyone on RGV.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I was just going to swear at Cecil Brown

Then he made it. Still, I think they need to get better shots.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

And I almost just cursed at Deron Washington

but then he let his teammates catch up and didn’t just run at the rim on his own.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

But then he just pulled up for a 20 foot jumper

Shot selection is now an issue. Again.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man

RGV can just run that pick and roll all night if Tulsa is going to switch Lewis onto the guard. This is just a really bad matchup for Lewis all-around..

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

AA

How did John Calipari’s offense not let Antonio Anderson develop as an offensive player but Chris Finch’s did?

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Calipari jerked him around too much

He never really had a defined role, did he?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

defense

his role was as the teams defensive stopper. but a guy who has the obvious talent, you’d think he’d just kinda break out at some point

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was talking on offense.
He went from PG to SG to SF to PG to SG I think, if I remember correctly.
Never really gave him a chance to score when he was coming from all angles.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what he's doing now, though?

He was playing PG before Conroy showed up, now he’s their SF.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Wallace kind of PG, too?

But yeah, you’re right.
Maybe he just started working on it in the offseason after not making it to the NBA?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is

but especially in the playoffs he’s become more of a straight-up three-point shooter and doesn’t run the offense as much as Conroy or Anderson.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

They cycled a bunch of guys through the PG position early in the season. Anderson, Wallace, Hasbrouck, Kenny Dawkins, maybe someone else.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Dawkins

I forgot about him.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

ABA

he ended up as a back up in the ABA on the SE Texas Mavericks. At least he won a championship

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Tucker

Represent!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was only there for 8 games

so that’s understandable.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who was the last player that Calipari actually developed?

That’s an honest question. Was Evans that much better coming out of Memphis than he was coming out of high school?

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I was recapping this game

And maybe I am, I think Antonio Anderson would get my non-Harris Player of the Game.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I can do it

but noted.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell is Lewis still doing out there?

He just tried to pick-and-pop to the 3-pointer.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's a crazy idea for Tulsa

Just play Washington at center. Then he can just hang around the paint and get putback dunks

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

If Daryl Morey is so smart why isn't his mic working?

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Also interesting that he had a "great season"

And they missed the playoffs.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Larry Owens

When he gets a chance, he’s been getting his Mike Harris on.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Deron Washington

Yuck.
I think he shot that from between his legs.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

IF ONLY WE COULD CHECK THE BOX SCORE

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Muss would tell us

Or even non-Muss, for that matter. Better yet, if we could pipe in ADB.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Larry's going to have to D up

Can’t give Harris open jumpers.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Ehambe injured now?

I didn’t notice that leg wrapping in the first half.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't either

But I don’t really remember him at all in the first half. Definitely injured, though.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

attendance

reported crowd of 6200 in RGV for this game. pretty damn good on a tuesday night

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 1:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

They’ve done very well attendance wise this year. And that’s a lot more legitimate than Tulsa’s reported attendance, as well.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a championship fan base.

Gotta love the devotion in the RGV.

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

They also love TV games

But yes, great fanbase.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't look like Clutch the Bear is in attendance, though

which is odd.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Did you find a VERSUS stream, Steve?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, no such luck

although a big part of that is that my connection has a pretty tough time with a lot of those stream sites. I’m lucky enough when Futurecast, LP BB or MLB.tv is really going well for stretches at a time.

I probably could have gotten the first hour in before close at a restaurant – but that’s only presuming the telecast legitimately got underway at 11 pm CT. Given what I’d heard about Sunday, didn’t seem like a wise use of money.

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't have been

Probably 11:17 before it got underway…
Also, I always think of you being in Boston.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is not an altogether uncommon sentiment

Alas, even when I am on my native East Coast, I am most often not in Boston then either.

Must be the Celts tweets.

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I would probably also assume you were in whichever city those baseball tweets are about, but I usually pretend that somebody hacked your account when those happen so I just ignore them.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're all about hating on the baseball.

It’s really quite an enjoyable pastime.

-sw

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I covered a double-header tonight

It was windy and sloppy. I didn’t enjoy it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

prep?

I generally stick to the ML level with the baseball tweets, though I can understand your frustration a bit more if it’s with the HS game.

-sw

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Nothing else around these parts.
I do enjoy Twins games, however. Tell me when you tweet about them.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm rather bummed

that they quit playing in their former abode before I had a chance to get up there for a game. Was very high on my list of stadiums I hadn’t yet attended.

A friend of mine went to the first game at the new park, though, and she loved it.

You’ll be alerted to any future Twins tweets. Though I wouldn’t sit by the phone. Or your Twitter feed.

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I typically sit by both all day

Except tonight, when I had to turn off the phone (airplane mode, actually, so I could still use it as an ipod at the gym) and haven’t logged into Twitter other than to post that we had people here.
You can still make it to the Dome for a Vikings game… the outdoor stadium is going to be weird once I make it. Not sure when that’ll be though because I’m scared to plan too far in advance and then having it rained/winded out.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehambe is visibly hobbled

I wonder fif that’s affecting his shot.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Antonio Anderson

The Glide.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, yes he is.

So are most of Tulsa’s perimeter players, unfortunately.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, yes, I've already checked on how it all went down

and yes, I’ve seen the warnings above and will not be placing any spoilers in my commentary here.

-sw

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Ha

Appreciate it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Though, given my lack of visuals,

I can’t say I’ll be adding much of anything else either.

Mostly just the occasional pseudo-pithy remark and taking in the narration of my “unfallen” [read: possessing VERSUS] D-League-watching comrades.

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to Jonathan Wallace?

I can’t remember the last time I saw him do something in this game.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:03 AM EDT reply actions  

He had 2 missed 3's

And then there was the time where he made the 3 while standing out of bounds.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harris just killed Hardin

I would pumpfake him every time he was defending me.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

RGV has attractive women sometimes

What up, girl in glasses singing Jump Around?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Tenn.

Talking about Memphis/Calipari earlier. When was the last nba guy put out by Tennessee? Alan Houston? JaJuan Smith made me think of it

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

According to Basketball Reference

Marcus Haislip and Vincent Yarbrough.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those were the last guys drafted, anyway.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

LATAVIOUS WILLIAMS

MMMMMMMMMMMMM.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

toasty

-sw

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by Steve Weinman on Apr 28, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

RGV just tied it

But that might put this one away. Too much momentum with the crowd being the way it is.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy Shit Moses Ehambe

Don’t do what you just did.
Ever again.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Good job Tulsa

Wink passed up a 3 to give it to Ehambe who passed up an open 3 to give it to Owens for 3 (who made it).
Don’t see that enough from the 66ers.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Go to work Larry

They can’t stop you.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Especially with Anderson out.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait, he's back?

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what song this is

But it’s been playing for a long time.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

If Aisander was still here

I’d remark that Larry Owens has officially become my Josh Davis of 2008-09.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I mean, you said it best when you said:

Wow.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig Freakin' Winder

No idea why he decided to jack that up, but Boom.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Stop shooting

You’re making me sick.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve, you missed a beauty.

Marcus Lewis drove to the basket.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Now that's cherry-picking.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh god.

WINK ADAMS YOURE SO DUMB. SO FREAKING DUMB.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

How many mascots does RGV have?

There’s the Viper, there’s a cowboy on the court now and I saw a superhero of some kind earlier.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:29 AM EDT reply actions  

They also used to have a mini-Viper.

And I think there might be a minor league baseball team mascot that shows up.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

And by please go to Larry Owens

I meant it would have been ideal if he would’ve at least touched the ball instead of a Wink Adams iso that ends up with him deciding to attempt a layup after being under the rim.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHY DOES LARRY OWENS NOT HAVE THE BALL WITH THE CLOCK RUNNING DOWN

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Git-R-Done Vipers

Larry the Cable Guy represent!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh wow.

I hope he called bank.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

OH MY EFFING GOD

YOU’VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

That was really big.

I told him to stop shooting earlier, and he should have, but that was big.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:35 AM EDT reply actions  

It's disturbing.

It’s not the D-League, though, but VERSUS. The D-League produced games show waaay too many replays.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

This time it's on Versus

but is it the league that produces the replays or the local broadcast teams? I know Dakota, Sioux Falls and Iowa show replays all the time, but I don’t think other markets show nearly as many.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

The local futurecast directors… Just not VERSUS, I guess.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is why i stayed up after knowing the results. just to see how that developed

by Brian Levy on Apr 28, 2010 2:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Good call.

Really good call.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

God, and now that Daily Line show is on

It’s every bit as horrible as the commercials make it seem.

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by Jon L on Apr 28, 2010 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I love Jenn Sterger

Florida State represent!
Also, that was the 300th comment!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 28, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

They just showed the Raptor mascot eating the cheerleader

How old is that? Youtube says two months.

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