#2 Rio Grande Valley Vipers vs. #3 Austin Toros D-League Semifinals Preview
Game 2 Highlights
The Rio Grande Valley Vipers and Austin Toros wrap up their semifinal series tonight, with the winner moving on to face the Tulsa 66ers in the finals. Hopefully this game doesn't get out of hand like last night's did. Really only the way this one could top it is if the Fan Man showed up. The game starts at 7:30 pm Central Time, and can be seen live on Futurecast here. As we have for each and every playoff game (and I do mean every game), I and probably Scott will be live-blogging this game in the comment section. Join us, won't you?
Game one saw the Toros hold on against a late RGV rally using a five-guard lineup. Yes, really. Vipers forward (and this year's D-League MVP) Mike Harris was limited by foul trouble in that game, which helped Austin considerably. The Vipers tied the series in game two behind a dominant performance from Harris and some early shooting woes for the Toros.
I predicted Rio Grande Valley to win the series, but this should be a fun, close game. My keys for each team are below the jump:
Rio Grande Valley
- Get off to a good start - The Vipers have a tendency to start slow, then come on strong in the second half. This being the deciding game of the series, RGV needs to make (and take) good shots from the get-go and prevent the Toros from running up an insurmountable lead.
- Keep Curtis Jerrells out of the paint - Jerrells has scored a combined 55 points over the first two games on 56.3 percent shooting. Jerrells's bread and butter has been using the pick and roll to drive to the basket and either score, get to the free throw line, or both. Jerrells has shot just 27.3 percent from outside in the post-season, and if the Vipers can turn him into more of a shooter that should disrupt Austin's offense.
- Play smart - There are a lot of smart players on RGV's roster, but this series has seen some pointless fouls and technicals and a slight uptick in turnovers from their first series against Reno. The Vipers need to make sure they don't get overexcited at being on the cusp of the finals and play themselves out of the game. Some of that might end up being out of their control (do you need to read the recap of last night's game again?), but RGV needs to be ruthlessly efficient in how they play tonight.
Austin
- Rebounding - RGV had a 50-37 rebounding advantage in game two, and while Mike Harris was a big part of that, it also falls on the Toros to improve in that area. Marcus Williams has been playing small forward (and sometimes power forward), and is a decent rebounder, but he had just four boards in 36 minutes on Monday. Michael Joiner needs to crash the boards more often, since he's playing center and all. Cory Underwood can help there if he stays out of foul trouble. Grabbing more rebounds will help keep the Vipers from running the fast break, which they do very well.
- Marcus Williams needs to attack - Williams was a bit passive in game two, settling for jumpers that, while not necessarily bad shots, helped feed RGV's rebounding advantage. Williams needs to focus more on attacking the basket, not just because he can finish or get to the line, but also because he keeps an eye out for open teammates when he does. Getting into the paint isn't just about helping Williams out, it's about helping everyone out and keeping the offense flowing.
- Figure out the perimeter defense - Neither Curtis Jerrells nor Alonzo Gee are good defenders, even by D-League standards. Marcus Williams is fine but not spectactular. Backup Squeaky Johnson also is fine but can be handled by bigger guards. There have been some matchups that worked over the course of the series (Williams on the Vipers' Will Conroy, for example), but with Eddie Basden and occasionally Gee on Harris duty, Quin Snyder and his guards will have to figure out how to keep Conroy and Antonio Anderson from getting to the rim as easily as they have.
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So who do you have winning?
I’m taking the Vipers in Quadruple Overtime.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
Given that I picked the Vipers in three games
I guess I’m taking the Vipers. Unless Harris gets in more foul trouble, I suppose. An overtime game would be fun.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So it's unanimous
RU’s official pick is RGV in 4OT.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel I should mention
That all of my first round picks were wrong. I did think Tulsa would beat Iowa, but I don’t think I went on record with it and that was when I thought they’d have the NBA guys anyway.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jerrells guarding Anderson
and Williams guarding Wallace was not really what I had in mind.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Putting Joiner on Harris is interesting though
It puts Basden in better rebounding position, certainly.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that Clinch is the first guard off the bench
and not Squeaky. Clinch had a pretty good game 2, though a lot of it came in garbage time.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
How many blown layups is that for Austin now?
5? 6?
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
Jeez, Basden is jacking threes tonight.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
A wide-open jumper at the elbow
is not a good shot when it’s taken by David McClure. There’s a reason you’re so wide open, guy.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Oh wow.
That was totally a charge.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Who called it?
Also, hey!
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't remember
The whistle blew, then there was an interim period before they indicated who it was on. So it may initially have been whistled as a charge and then changed. (ADB thought it was a charge, too.)
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
should
have been a charge
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there ya go
I’m guessing it wasn’t Nick Buchert that called it.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
he changed it to the charge
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent official.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like there have been a lot more substitutions in this game than previously.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Just a guess
But maybe they read my 4OT prediction so they’re resting guys for later?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
18 players already have seen the floor.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what's weird?
Marcus Williams box score always looks worse to me than I think it should be. I don’t know if I just forget about all his bad things after he does something like the turnaround jumper he just pulled off or what..
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
He's looked okay
he just missed a couple of layups, stuff he usually makes.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Harris's 3-point shot has improved
But does he really have to attempt to show it off when he can dominate inside?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
I'm pretty sure Gee just got to the rim in two steps.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
*from behind the three-point line
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
Whoops.
I wonder what kind of hits ADB was hoping for…
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
RGV 49, Austin 44 at halftime
Toros shooting 1-12 from outside.
RGV has 11 turnovers, as many as they had in all of game 2.
Mike Harris has 13 points, five rebounds and four assists.
Alonzo Gee has 11 points on 4-5 shooting, but also four turnovers.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
I was just getting ready to do that.
I’ll still use my joke:
I guess I’ll be the Jonah of our announce crew since your face is rounder like ADB’s.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the D-League on fire or what?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Yo Jonah
There was a girl in a black and white, zebra patterned shirt that walked behind you and Alpert. Give her my digits.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
RGV looks oddly sluggish right now.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Still
On defense anyway… specifically the defensive glass.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin's making it look easy...
Not a good omen for the snakes.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
If the 3's start falling for Austin...
Watch out!
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
ADB's getting frustrated
But his transitions are flawless. HE GOT FOULED IN THE HEAD And Marcus Williams in the low post…
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
ADB's pronounciation
He say Byoukurt. I thought it was Bookert.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
I thought it was ADB's pronunciation
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
One of us is right.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I really
have no clue… there is no pronunciation guide for officials…
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Marty Tirrell knew when his birthday was
and you can’t even get his last name!?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I am in the D-League I guess
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for long...!
If you guys hold on, I’m sure Jonah can get D-Reed on for a halftime spot where he’ll say “The D-League isn’t just for advancing the players, but it also helps advance coaches, front office staff, dance team members, officials and even broadcasters like you and the immaculate Del Barrio.”
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams falls away on his jumper a little too much
tonight, anyway.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
From the Barkin lot?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Over/Under on time it takes for a Star Wars reference?
I say before start of 4th.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Nah, I think later
Although now we have a conundrum: does your mentioning it affect the outcome?
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Jonah's reading
Or else he would’ve gave that girl my digits…
And since ADB has had issues with forgetting to turn off his mic tonight, I’m pretty sure we’d hear if he tipped him off.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
There aren't many combinations in this game
Where all 10 of the guys on the court can’t spot up for 3.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Fourth Quarter
Y’all ready for this?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Gotta love
Conroy trying to set the defense while standing on the sideline waiting to check in.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
He's really become a leader
Also, it confused me when I first saw him before I realized what he was doing…
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Is RGV the best at booing?
First Des, now Marcus Williams? (also I think they had much more reason to boo Des than MW)
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Well, ADB did mention that Williams and Winder have a history
but I have no idea what that is.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ve been very physical in previous games last season…
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But
What else is new with Winder
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by vipersradio on Apr 21, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I never considered him that physical
But as far as what else is new - he’s attempted more shots than he has minutes played according to the box score.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and he keeps going
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ClutchFans
We have to lure them over. I wonder if the Dream Shake is paying attention…
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
The last DS post that mentions the D-League
is Conroy’s call-up from late January, so I doubt it. Maybe next season?
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'll fanshot
If they make it, that is. Also, PtR gave us a good plug, but with the Spurs playing, it was for naught, apparently.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder why the Vipers don't put Harris on Gee
Anderson’s not really preventing him from getting inside.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
I've wondered about a few things
We can get into them later…
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Like why Underwood hasn't played in the second half?
He was playing decent defense on Harris.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Conroy looked mad/confused about that timeout
I don’t have much to add to that.
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Williams travelled on that...
But still pretty clutch… VERY QUICK FIRST STEP
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
We need a clock on screen
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
I want a replay
Was he outside the circle?
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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 21, 2025 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
I couldn't tell
there were so many players standing in that area.
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by Jon L on Apr 21, 2025 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
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