NBA Mock Draft, Post-Lottery Edition
by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2025 7:20 AM EDT
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Here it is - Ridiculous Upside's first stab at mocking the 2010 NBA draft - post-lottery edition. I hope you like it, but if you don't, we'll have these updated every Monday(ish) as pre-draft workouts and the NBA Combine are completed.
Please check out our Guide To Mock Drafts to answer any questions before any flambéing occurs. After the jump I've provided brief analysis on all 30 first round picks.
Also, if you have any issues, leave the feedback in the comments and we can discuss it there. Still, if there are so many issues that you think you can make a better version, post it in the fan posts and, if we like it, it could make the front page. If there are enough people that use the fan posts for their mock, we'll probably have a contest - with prizes!
Pick |
Team |
Player |
| 1 | Washington Wizards | John Wall (Kentucky) |
| 2 | Philadelphia 76ers | Evan Turner (Ohio State) |
| 3 | New Jersey Nets | Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech) |
| 4 | Minnesota Timberwolves | DeMarcus Cousins (Kentucky) |
| 5 | Sacramento Kings | Wesley Johnson (Syracuse) |
| 6 | Golden State Warriors | Al-Farouq Aminu (Wake Forest) |
| 7 | Detroit Pistons | Greg Monroe (Georgetown) |
| 8 | Los Angeles Clippers | Cole Aldrich (Kansas) |
| 9 | Utah Jazz (from NYK) | Ed Davis (North Carolina) |
| 10 | Indiana Pacers | Xavier Henry (Kansas) |
| 11 | New Orleans Hornets | Daniel Orton (Kentucky) |
| 12 | Memphis Grizzlies | Ekpe Udoh (Baylor) |
| 13 | Toronto Raptors | Hassan Whiteside (Marshall) |
| 14 | Houston Rockets | Patrick Patterson (Kentucky) |
| 15 | Milwaukee Bucks (from CHI) | James Anderson (Oklahoma State) |
| 16 | Minnesota Timberwolves (from CHA) | Gordon Hayward (Butler) |
| 17 | Chicago Bulls (from MIL) | Paul George (Fresno State) |
| 18 | Miami Heat | Avery Bradley (Texas) |
| 19 | Boston Celtics | Luke Babbitt (Nevada) |
| 20 | San Antonio Spurs | Donatas Motiejunas (Lithuania) |
| 21 | Oklahoma City Thunder | Solomon Alabi (Florida State) |
| 22 | Portland Trail Blazers | Damion James (Texas) |
| 23 | Minnesota Timberwolves (from UTA) | Kevin Seraphin (France) |
| 24 | Atlanta Hawks | Larry Sanders (VCU) |
| 25 | Memphis Grizzlies (from DEN) | Eric Bledsoe (Kentucky) |
| 26 | Oklahoma City Thunder (from PHX) | Quincy Pondexter (Washington) |
| 27 | New Jersey Nets (from DAL) | Terrico White (Mississippi) |
| 28 | Memphis Grizzlies (from LAL) | Stanley Robinson (UConn) |
| 29 | Orlando Magic | Willie Warren (Oklahoma) |
| 30 | Washington Wizards (from CLE) | Devin Ebanks (West Virginia) |
Second Round |
Team |
Player |
| 31 | New Jersey Nets | Craig Brackins (Iowa State) |
| 32 | Oklahoma City Thunder (from MIN) | Elliot Williams (Memphis) |
| 33 | Sacramento Kings | Jerome Jordan (Tulsa) |
| 34 | Washington Wizards | Gani Lawal (Georgia Tech) |
| 35 | Golden State Warriors | Jarvis Varnado (Mississippi State) |
| 36 | Detroit Pistons | Darington Hobson (New Mexico) |
| 37 | Milwaukee Bucks (from PHI) | Dominique Jones (South Florida) |
| 38 | New York Knicks | Jordan Crawford (Xavier) |
| 39 | New York Knicks (from LAC) | Tiny Gallon (Oklahoma) |
| 40 | Indiana Pacers | Armon Johnson (Nevada) |
| 41 | Miami Heat (from NOH) | Artsiom Parakhouski (Radford) |
| 42 | Miami Heat (from TOR) | Sylven Landesberg (Virginia) |
| 43 | Los Angeles Lakers (from MEM) | Sherron Collins (Kansas) |
| 44 | Portland Trail Blazers (from CHI) | Robin Benzing (Germany) |
| 45 | Minnesota Timberwolves (from HOU) | Miroslav Raduljica (Serbia) |
| 46 | Phoenix Suns (from CHA) | Trevor Booker (Clemson) |
| 47 | Milwaukee Bucks | Charles Garcia (Seattle) |
| 48 | Miami Heat | Dwayne Collins (Miami) |
| 49 | San Antonio Spurs | Greivis Vasquez (Maryland) |
| 50 | Dallas Mavericks (from OKC) | Dexter Pittman (Texas) |
| 51 | Oklahoma City Thunder (from POR) | Latavious Williams (Tulsa 66ers) |
| 52 | Boston Celtics | Mikhail Torrance (Alabama) |
| 53 | Atlanta Hawks | Manny Harris (Michigan) |
| 54 | Los Angeles Clippers (from DEN) | Da'Sean Butler (West Virginia) |
| 55 | Utah Jazz | Elijah Millsap (UAB) |
| 56 | Minnesota Timberwolves (from PHX) | Brian Zoubek (Duke) |
| 57 | Indiana Pacers (from DAL) | Jeremy Wise (Bakersfield Jam) |
| 58 | Los Angeles Lakers | Derrick Caracter (UTEP) |
| 59 | Orlando Magic | Jon Scheyer (Duke) |
| 60 | Phoenix Suns (from CLE) | Alexy Shved (Russia) |
1. Washington Wizards - John Wall, PG (Kentucky freshman)
While there seems to be some dissent wondering if John Wall can play next to the current face of the Wizards franchise, Gilbert Arenas, it seems that the answer is a resounding yes. Arenas will no longer have to constantly create all of his shots (formerly known as the Wizards offense) while Wall has shown that he can play alongside another point guard already - he did so at Kentucky when fellow first-round pick Eric Bledsoe was in. By the way, SBN's Wizards blog Bullets Forever seems to be kind of excited about winning the lottery - just in case you were wondering. And, for that matter, Wall and his posse are happy with the Wizards winning as well (just as long it wasn't Minnesota, it seems).
2. Philadelphia 76ers - Evan Turner, SG/SF (Ohio State junior)
The Sixers are already said to be open to trading this pick according to Sam Amico, but that wouldn't seem to be the prudent idea - regardless of their current roster. With Willie Green and Jason Kapono both seeing more NBA starts than they should have last season (meaning that they started NBA games), it definitely makes sense to draft Turner to play on the wing Andre Iguodala. While, as Chad Ford states in his new mock draft, Turner duplicates a lot of the same things Iguodala does, a few of those duplications include excellent rebounding for their size and great defense - and don't worry, they're not too bad on offense, either. For what it's worth, Sixers Nation has already weighed in - and they want Turner.
3. New Jersey Nets - Derrick Favors, PF (Georgia Tech freshman)
While DeMarcus Cousins is the more NBA-ready prospect, Favors has what those in the know call "Ridiculous Upside" at the ripe young age of 18. It doesn't hurt that he's much more suited to play next to current big man Brook Lopez with his blend of speed and athleticism, either. It's probably the not most prudent pick to win now or, for that matter, to lure LeBron James to New Jersey/Brooklyn/where ever but it should pay off in the long-run - and after finishing with the worst record in the NBA this year, the Nets should definitely be thinking long-term so they don't end up in this same predicament sometime soon. As an aside, this may or may not be karma for Nets' fans prematurely debating the merits of Wall versus Turner.
4. Minnesota Timberwolves - DeMarcus Cousins, C (Kentucky freshman)
Canis Hoopus actually had DeMarcus Cousins at the top of their big board, so while they're unhappy that they didn't win the lottery, Stop-N-Pop reasons that "it's not that awful." While neither Al Jefferson or Kevin Love are certifiable centers, Cousins certainly certainly is at 6-foot-11 and 260 pounds. While there are red flags concerning Cousins' attitude, there isn't a player in the draft that doesn't have issues - nor is there a better on-the-court player available at this selection.
5. Sacramento Kings - Wesley Johnson, SF (Syracuse junior)
I really, really like Wesley Johnson. He didn't play last season after transferring from Iowa State, but there's a lot to like about the guy. He can shoot, run the floor, and he hit the boards pretty hard at 'Cuse. Unfortunately, he'll be 23 when the NBA season starts and he played in Syracuse's zone defense (tough to project to the NBA). Though the Kings most wanted a legitimate big man to pair with former lottery picks Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes, the best player available won't be a terrible option - especially when the small forward spot was the least productive position for Sactown last season. Johnson can shoot (42% from beyond the arc last season), rebound and get up and down the floor and seemingly play defense (he averaged just under two steals and two blocks per game). He's probably not going to be the star Tyreke Evans turned out to be, but he'll more than likely make Evans happy when he's able to dish the ball to Johnson for a corner three.
6. Golden State Warriors - Al-Farouq Aminu, F (Wake Forest sophomore)
While it's almost unanimous that the Golden State Warriors need a big man to replace the production(?) of Andris Biedrins, it'd be a mistake to take a plodder for the fun-and-gun Warriors offense (Chad Ford suggests Cole Aldrich). Aminu is an athletic tweener that can play both forward spots in the Warriors offense - and we know how much Don Nelson loves to play Nellieball with versatile players all around the court. Aminu is currently working on his jumper and ball handling in Los Angeles according to Draft Express, two of the biggest knocks against currently against him, and it sounds like everything is going great. Since Anthony Tolliver did well in Golden State's system, I have no doubt that Aminu can do the same. According to Blogger So Dear, SB Nation's Wake Forest blog, it seems Aminu should translate better to the NBA than I had planned. As a plus, I'm fairly certain he's not going to be the next DerMarr Johnson.
7. Detroit Pistons - Greg Monroe, PF/C (Georgetown sophomore)
Greg Monroe is not going to do the dirty-work that Ben Wallace brought the Pistons, but with Jason Maxiell that isn't exactly a need. Monroe is the most skilled big man in the draft as he can shoot, pass, score in the post and even put the ball on the floor. His rebounding is often said to be a problem, but he did average 9.6 boards while at Georgetown last season. While he's not a throwback Piston, the Pistons aren't really built like that right now anyway.
8. Los Angeles Clippers - Cole Aldrich, C (Kansas Sophomore)
The Clippers don't need a big man, really - and I realize this. Steve Perrin from ClipsNation told me as much which is why I went with Xavier Henry last week. Then I was called "ridiculous" by pretty much everyone, so I decided we're going to go the best player available route. This week, it seems that Aldrich is that player - while he resembles current big man Chris Kaman, he's honestly too good to pass up. Plus, with seemingly-constant trade rumors surrounding Kaman, it doesn't hurt to have a much cheaper replacement ready and waiting in the wings.
9. Utah Jazz - Ed Davis, PF (North Carolina Sophomore)
While I juggled with putting Luke Babbitt here (he seems to be rising up everyone's draft board and Cole Aldrich wasn't available so he's the best white dude available), Davis would be very tough to pass up with his combination of rebounding and shot blocking and energy he brings to the floor. With the very real possibility of Carlos Boozer heading to free agency this offseason, Davis would represent a nice change-of-pace forward to come off the bench for Millsap - and if he can add a little bit of bulk, he could probably even play along side him.
10. Indiana Pacers - Xavier Henry, SG (Kansas freshman)
Xavier Henry seems to be losing fans every day, unfortunately (Ford dropped him to the 19th spot in his most recent mock). Fortunately for Pacers fans, I've not heard/read anything that makes me not think he's the best option in Indiana to replace fellow Kansas alum Brandon Rush. Henry has NBA size and an NBA-ready stroke, meaning he should be able to step right in and contribute.
The Hornets could probably have used a small forward just as well at this spot, but there really isn't one available - without reaching. In Orton, they'll get their center of the future as well as their top backup in the frontcourt right now (with Emeka being able to slide to the 4). Jeff Bower has shown he knows what he's doing with the draft and I don't think he's scared of taking a potential-laden pick (especially since he doesn't have to worry about coaching him). May 10th Update: I'm trying to decide if I like this highlight video from his high school days because he shows a soft touch and seems to be more agile than planned or hate it because he doesn't look as strong as I thought he was.
12. Memphis Grizzlies - Ekpe Udoh, PF (Baylor junior)
It's tough to draft for the Grizzlies this year because there aren't really any major holes - especially if they're able to hold on to Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo makes a succesful transition to the point. While a big man isn't necessarily needed for this season (especially after drafting Hasheem Thabeet second overall last season), their position in the draft makes it almost a certainty that it happens. I'm not as sold on Udoh as some, but he'd be a more-than-capable replacement for Zach Randolph if he doesn't resign with the Grizzlies next season.
With the possibility of Chris Bosh leaving, a big man seems to be the likeliest pick at this juncture (both because it fills a potential need and their aren't many other options available). Whiteside has been said to be the biggest risk/reward pick in the draft, but the Raptors will definitely be looking to make a splash if they indeed lose the face of their franchise. If he's able to get stronger, and improve a bit on offense, this will become an awesome pick. As is, his 5.4 blocks per game should would certainly be nice if they translate.
It's kind of surprising that his draft stock actually rose this season while his production dropped, but he showed maturity, leadership and all of the other nice words you'd expect out of someone older than the 21-year-old from Kentucky. With the Rockets seemingly looking for a big man in free agency (hopefully Bosh from the sounds of it), Patterson's ready to step-in right now - and comes at quite the discount.
15. Milwaukee Bucks - James Anderson, SG (Oklahoma State junior)
The Bucks might be losing John Salmons, but that won't be such a blow if they're able to draft Anderson, one of the best scorers in college last season.
16. Minnesota Timberwolves - Gordon Hayward, SF (Butler Sophomore)
I know everyone thought the Wolves would quit drafting based on awesome NCAA tournaments, but I think it'd be tough to pass on Hayward to compliment the defensive-minded Corey Brewer on the wing. For what it's worth, Chad Ford put him with the Bucks pick while mentioning "I hesitate to put Hayward this low, knowing that the Chicago draft combine is coming up and that he's going to measure better athletically than people think. "
17. Chicago Bulls - Paul George, G/F (Fresno State sophomore)
I asked your friendly BullsBlogger from BlogABull what the Bulls might be looking for and he essentially said three-point shooting, preferably from a 2-guard and preferably with athleticism. After George recently told Chad Ford that he thinks he might be better at the 2 than the 3, this choice is perfect. George has a host of highlight reel dunks, but can also shoot very well from long-range (especially if the Bulls rein him in just a bit).
18. Miami Heat - Avery Bradley, G (Texas freshman)
The defense is the backbone with Bradley - and most think he'll be able to transition to the point in the NBA. Though the Heat have bigger fish to fry (Dwayne Wade needs to stay), Bradley's very quick and can defend the other team's best guard so Wade has more energy to do work on offense.
19. Boston Celtics - Luke Babbitt, SF (Nevada sophomore)
What do the Celtics need? I've been lurking over at CelticsBlog for awhile, but they really seem quite content (even Scalabrine gets some love). That said, I'm going to go with the best available player in Babbitt. A 6-foot-9 shooter, he'd be a great option off the bench for a team with very few holes (see Playoffs, NBA 2010). He could also possibly slide Paul Pierce over to the two-guard and replace Ray Allen's shooting prowess if Allen isn't retained.
I've never been enamored with Motiejunas' game (or rather draft-and-stashing early first-rounders), but didn't want to be the only one to drop him out of the lottery. The good news is that Chad Ford dropped Motiejunas to the 21st overall pick in his latest mock so now I can tell you how I really feel. With the Spurs not really having many immediate needs, it'd make sense to draft Motiejunas in hopes of having him step in immediately next year.
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Solomon Alabi, PF (Florida State junior)
This pick probably isn't going to need to contribute right away, which is why it makes sense to pick a big with potential (he'll at least have better numbers than Byron Mullens, if nothing else). He kind of replicates the skillset of Serge Ibaka, but if one Ibaka on the floor is nice, two would be even better! Right? Oh, also he's 7-foot-1 and runs the floor like a gazelle.
22. Portland Trailblazers - Damion James, F (Texas Senior)
I had Quincy Pondexter here earlier, but after talking to some people who have opinions that I trust more than my own I've decided to give James a considerable bump. James might be one of the more underrated players in the draft with his combination of athleticism and motor. BlazersEdge has had their eye on him as well.
23. Minnesota Timberwolves - Kevin Seraphin, F/C (France)
Here's the deal - as much as I'd prefer the Wolves to do what I want them to do, I have to assume they're either going to trade this pick or stash this pick. With Seraphin on the board (someone I'm really intrigued with in what I've been able to watch), I think he's the pick. He's not ready yet, and maybe he never will be, but it's a pick that could pay off down the road.
25. Memphis Grizzlies -Eric Bledsoe, G (Kentucky freshman)
I know I've already mentioned that Mayo might be moving to the point, but it'd be pretty difficult to pass on Bledsoe if he's still sitting here at this point in the draft.
26. Oklahoma City Thunder - Quincy Pondexter SF/PF (Washington senior)
I really like Pondexter, but I had to drop him in favor of Damion James this week. Still, he seems like an OKC type of guy - a lanky, athletic defender that can play multiple positions. Chad Ford says that "he is an elite athlete and proved this season that he can really score. He's a jump shot away from being a star." With enough shooters, I think Pondexter will fit in just fine.
27. New Jersey Nets -Terrico White, SG (Mississippi Sophomore)
The Nets could use a scoring option on the wing and White can definitely fill that role. He could also possibly fill the void as backup point guard if needed.
28. Memphis Grizzlies - Stanley Robinson, F (UConn senior)
Just go with it. With the possibility of losing both Rudy Gay and Ronnie Brewer, the wing is a position of need. While I'm not totally sold on Robinson, there's a lot to like getting him at this spot. If nothing else, the pick adds to the athletes.
29. Orlando Magic - Willie Warren, G (Oklahoma sophomore)
With Anthony Johnson and Jason Williams both becoming free agents, the Magic could do a lot worse as Warren was projected as a top five pick coming into the season. I'm not sure what happens when he gets to the NBA, but it's probably worth this pick to try and figure it out. The magic are deep enough to be able to take the loss if he looks as bad as he did this past season, but it'll be a steal if he's able to regain his freshman form.
30. Washington Wizards - Devin Ebanks, SF (West Virginia)
"Who cares who the Wizards pick at 30? They got John Wall!" was the esteemed Tom Ziller's reasoning for the Wizards 30th pick over at AOL Fanhouse. Although I've inserted a different player, the explanation fits.
For a link to more mock drafts (to compare and contrast), check out DC Pro Sports Report's database.
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I think the Nets are the real winners of the lottery.
Adding Derrick Favors to that roster would do wonders. They could add Evan Turner if 76ers decide to take Favors instead. Turner would fill real need on the wing.
by E-ROC on May 19, 2025 8:47 AM EDT reply actions
I’m just not sure the Spurs have the ability to pass up a SF with that #20 pick especially if James, Pondexter, and Robinson are all still available. If they do, I think it says a lot about where they stand with Hairston, Gee, and/or M. Williams.
I think a lot of Spurs fans really hope the Spurs go with Alabi if he is available and they aren’t going SF. The Spurs should be more willing to draft Alabi and give him some time with the Toros than draft Donatas and send him to Europe if those were the two options for bigs who won’t contribute immediately. I just hope the Spurs get Splitter over here in terms of 7-footers.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 9:13 AM EDT reply actions
I think a lot of Spurs fans really hope the Spurs go with Alabi if he is available and they aren’t going SF
I’m starting to think that way, as long as they can find a decent backup for Jefferson - more size in the middle can’t hurt.
Free Tiago Splitter!
by Tim C. on May 19, 2025 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
If RJ were to opt out and be resigned to a 4-5 year deal, I would be more willing to not draft a SF. I’m probably getting ahead of myself, but who starts at SF if we finish RJ’s contract and then he is gone? I think those three D League guys are great depth, but I don’t see them being our starting SF. If the FO thinks anyone available at 20 could potentially be a starting SF for us in 2011-12 then they have to take him.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you, I sure as hell hope the Spurs don’t draft for potential this year and get a more proven entity.
And I disagree with the author of this post that the Spurs don’t have a pressing need. They have several as their sweep to the Suns shows.
While complacency costs, perseverance pays
by B.diddy on May 19, 2025 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we got swept because of Hill’s inexperience among other things, but we don’t have any glaring holes, especially with Tiago, Hairston, Gee, and M. Williams all hungry for minutes. Garrett Temple was even really rough for what we saw of him. We have a lot we can use outside of that #20 pick. Not many Spurs fans will lose sleep if they never see Mason, Bogans, or Bonner in the black and silver again. Our core is good. We just need depth.
So I agree with the author in that we could afford to use that pick to draft and stash, but I just really hope we don’t unless:
1. Splitter signs.
2. The FO and Pop have real confidence in one or some combination of Gee, Hairston, and Williams at SF.
- or -
3. We trade RJ for at least two solid rotation players.
The Spurs pick will be very telling of where they think our roster stands, because we know the ownership and FO want to win championships at almost any cost while Duncan is on the roster.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It appears the Spurs FO is willing to spend most of the salary cap on Duncan, Ginobili and Parker for another two years. What does that leave? If Splitter comes over, I think everyone is willing to sink or swim with that ship, leaving the 20 pick for the best spot up shooter that stands a legitimate 6’7". A 6’10" athletic type able to guard the likes of Odom or Frye would do, just so he can make a free throw and lay up (now is that really asking too much?). I think the teams problems have become complex because of underachievers (RJ, RMJ) and players that appear to offer promise, but just aren’t as good as we wanted them to be (MB, KB). If you have ever held a job you have probably worked with both types. I honestly think that the play from three over achievers (GH, DB, GT) kept the ship from sinking this year. Then there is Ian. I think it would be a shame to let him go and keep MB. IM can make a layup and free throw, plus get physical on interior defense. I think he will be able to stay with the likes of Odom. At times he appears lost, but Bonner, enough’s enough! Watching the teams that appear headed to the finals, the Spurs 2 draft picks need to be rangy players between 6’7" and 6’11". Go Spurs
by Cardinian on May 21, 2025 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Aminu
If GSW picks him, I think he will be an excellent fit for him. Not great in the half court but awesome in the fast break and secondary break. He can also rebound for them and will fit in very nicely for them.
As for Orton, I think he will get picked around that range but if a team picks him over Udoh, they will have made a mistake.
by JoshuaR on May 19, 2025 9:21 AM EDT reply actions
I wasn't sure about the Scheyer pick at first
But it’s growing on me
Especially since the Magic have half of this on their team now.
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by The Dark on May 19, 2025 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
The Sixers NEED a SHOOTING GUARD desperately
With this in mind they should either pick Evan Turner or Xavier Henry…..they’re both big guards who can put it in the hole….We have nothing like that at the present time…..Also trade Speights & Young to get another good draft pick…..can’t wait for Sammy’s contract to expire…maybe then we’ll get a great center…..we’re stuck with Andre and his enormous contract but if he plays the 3 which is where he belongs it would be better for the Sixers in their future…….Starting 5 (Holliday, Turner, Sammy, Iggy and Brand) it’s an improvement but NOT the final product…..that will take a few more years to complete..
by phillyfan#5 on May 19, 2025 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
I love Henry but if you’re looking at him at 2, contact lenses are no longer as expensive as they used to be.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 20, 2025 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
WHY
why would the wolves draft cousins and not wesley johnson. wolves got 2 certified big mans. for the 23rd pick I say pondexter. if the wolves take those 2 guys, I say PLAYOFF and if the wolves is willing to get another PG in the 2nd round. vasquez from MARYLAND WOULD BE A STEAL
by Fuj Moua on May 19, 2025 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Because Johnson is a 23 year old role player
Wings who can’t handle the ball are rarely succesful in the NBA unless they can shoot the 3 and be a standout defender. Johnson is surely athletic, but there isn’t a single Syracuse alum in the NBA that is a standout defender after being trained in the 2-3 zone. Not a single one. Wes Johnson would be a disaster at #4 for the Wolves. What does he do differently than Corey Brewer…NOTHING!
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a better shooter and defender. And probably more athletic and a better rebounder.
But I mean aside from that they’re the same.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 20, 2025 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
All debatable except the shooting department where you are clearly right. Time will tell. Corey Brewer is a pretty good athlete, tough to say Wes is more athletic.
by Ebomb on May 20, 2025 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY
zubekk from DUKE to the wolves haha wat a joke
by Fuj Moua on May 19, 2025 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Zoubek was the second best offensive rebounder in the last ten years in college basketball
he was second behind DeJuan Blair, that’s got to count for something. Plus, wide-bodied 7 footers don’t come along as often as crappy combo guards.
by Aisander D on May 19, 2025 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Could’ve guessed you’d be commenting on this ’Sander.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 20, 2025 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
But what about zubekk?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 20, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Great job putting this out so quickly. Do you really expect a Wall-Turner Top 2? Just asking because 2 guards haven’t gone one and two in a draft in the last 30 years. Obviously measurements and workouts change things as this process progesses, but it’s hard to argue against 30 years of history and think that one of Cousins or Favors won’t rise to #2.
If I’m Philadelphia I don’t see how Turner and Iggy are a good fit at all. Neither play off the ball that well and both have shooting questions. The question becomes would you rather have (Cousins or Favors) + Iggy or Turner + (Whatever you can trade Iggy for). Tough decision, but I doubt you get a better big via trade than Cousins or Favors and I don’t think Turner is a substantial upgrade from Iggy.
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t think the Nets should take Turner over Favors or Cousins so if Philly chooses one of the bigs, could Turner fall to the Wolves?
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That Nets frontcourt is thin
They need to cut Yi and get at least two more guys in the rotation. Tough to find those guys in free agency, but they will have the capspace to overpay. I agree with your take though, if I’m Rod Thorn I take Cousins or Favors before Turner.
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as you're just looking for role players, there will be some bigs available
Looking at prospective free agents (I was originally going to mock them, too, but figured I’d leave that to the draft prospects):
Brad Miller
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Shaquille O’Neal
Drew Gooden
Tim Thomas
Malik Allen
Johan Petro
Marcus Camby
Udonis Haslem
Jamaal Magloire
Kurt Thomas
Eddy Curry
David Lee
Darko Milicic
Primoz Brezec
Louis Amundson
Ian Mahinmi…
there are plenty of others as well, but that’s hopefully enough to show that there will be bigs in free agency this off-season, and with everyone focused on the LeBron/Wade/Bosh sweepstakes, a fairly good number of second tier free agents may sign for less than expected.
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by The Dark on May 20, 2025 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
please define "available"
Camby signed at 2-year extension with the Blazers (weeks ago), so he will not be “available” to other NBA teams. That being said, perhaps you were indicating that he and his significant other are on the outs, and he’s now dating again?
Please, please please please please check facts before you post nonsense!
by SlackerKeith on May 20, 2025 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right, I forgot to update my list of free agents when Camby re-signed. Which, of course, completely negates the point of my post that there are a plethora of free agent big men available on the market this year. Congratulations on finding one error so egregious that you had to create an account just to bitch about it twice.
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by The Dark on May 21, 2025 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I would bet that Minnesota trades down
Kahn looked pissed last night, and I doubt they would draft yet another big man, especially if they’re serious about keeping Milicic around for whatever reason. Then again, they could draft Cousins and try to trade Jefferson, as they’ve been rumored to have looked at doing last season.
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by Jon L on May 19, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Jefferson for Jefferson if the Spurs can't get Splitter
Spurs get: Jefferson, Brewer, and maybe one other low salary or one of their two late first round picks possibly in exchange for our first rounder
Wolves get: Jefferson, Blair, and maybe one of our prospects (Gee, Temple, etc.)
RJ expires before Al so Minnesota would be free after next season to rebuild without either of those $10+ million dollar contracts. Blair is an exciting player for fans if you aren’t making the playoffs anyways. RJ is your clear starter so Brewer is even more expendable.
Spurs get rid of RJ. Al Jefferson is on a great contract that he would be under for longer than Duncan’s creating a transition period if Al works out. A frontcourt of Jefferson and Splitter post Duncan is intriguing. Dice, Duncan, and Jefferson make up a pretty sound 3-man core for our frontcourt.
I know, crazy, but Al Jefferson is a functional player with a big contract over a long term. If the Spurs FO wants to trade RJ, these players are their only hope. Maggette would also make that short list.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I say trade Jefferson and the #20 for someone and keep Blair. Then use the MLE on Splitter (hopefully) and the BAE on a solid player to fill any leftover holes.
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by B.diddy on May 19, 2025 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I might be mistaken, but if the Spurs trade the #20, they have to take a first round pick back since we didn’t pick last year.
If you are getting Al, Blair is very expendable.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point, I forgot that they didn’t have a 1st rounder last year, but they can always draft him and then trade him ala that Brazillion dude on the Suns (what the f2k is his f2king name again)
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by B.diddy on May 20, 2025 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Wolves can do better this
Dumars wants to win now and they definitely need some post players that can play immediately. Jefferson for #7 + Prince or Hamilton would be a better deal than this Spurs poo-poo platter.
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a better deal for both teams no doubt
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by B.diddy on May 19, 2025 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just throwing out a Spurs deal as a Spurs fan. The Spurs almost never make big trades because that’s all we have to offer, poo poo platters.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Blair and Love on the same team would be terrible on defense.
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ll be terrible anyways. I’m talking about getting rid of Al Jefferson’s contract and minutes as the major upside for the Wolves. They can be like OKC in a year with a bunch of guys on rookie scale and cap room to steal some players from teams that are hurting financially.
by BlaseE on May 19, 2025 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They are over $15 Million under the cap this offseason
Don’t know how MORE cap space could help, Free Agents don’t sign up for the Arctic Tundra that Minnesota is labeled as.
by Ebomb on May 19, 2025 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft and Stash
I think we tend to forget how we won those championships. With a good big man in the middle and Tim at P/F. Look at the Lakers ( hate them hope Boston beats them in the finals again) they basically have the same formula we did! WE NEED A BIG! If that means we have to draft and stash i’m all for it.
by spurlover on May 20, 2025 5:01 AM EDT reply actions
Draft and stash is exactly what the Spurs don’t need…they need a big to come in a transition with the team the way David did to Tim.
Splitter was a draft and stash, now we need him to come to fruition.
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by B.diddy on May 20, 2025 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
crazy evan turner mix that everyone should see *HD*
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Hope the Wizards make the right choice!
by Randy Lee on May 20, 2025 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
NBA Draft notes .....
Firstly, whoever wrote this damn article needs to understand that Wesley Johnson did, in fact, play last year. He missed the ‘08-’09 season after the transfer. Also, some idiot is claiming that Marcus Camby is an “available” big man. He signed a 2-year extension with the Blazers in April.
Does anyone on this damn site check any facts?
by SlackerKeith on May 20, 2025 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
My mistake
I guess I should clarify that I would consider 2008-09 last season and 2009-10 this season..
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by Scott Schroeder on May 20, 2025 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay, Collins finally to the Lakers
Still very doubtful that actually happens though.
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by Ben R on May 20, 2025 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
For which reasons?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 20, 2025 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The lack of point guards in this draft
And the number of second round teams picking before the Lakers that have point guard needs, although if Bradley does fall to Miami, this scenario could play out as shown. Bledsoe falls and Armon Johnson slips out of the first round bubble.
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by Ben R on May 20, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
#2 pick
is there any way the warriors could put together a trade for the second pick, or is that just a pipe dream?
by Pino on May 21, 2025 5:56 AM EDT reply actions
If you're willing to trade Curry, then sure
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by Ben R on May 21, 2025 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the better answer would be “If you’re willing to take on Elton Brand’s contract, give us your first his year and next year, and some value + expirings when the contracts match up.” So are you?
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 21, 2025 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant this year, not his year. I don’t know whose year it is.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 21, 2025 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You can’t deal first round picks in consecutive years. It could be this year’s and the 2012 pick, but not this year and next year.
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by The Dark on May 21, 2025 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that factual? I’ve never heard of this. What if it’s top 3 then top 5 protected?
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 21, 2025 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the “Stepien Rule,” put in place after Ted Stepien hosed the Cavs with bad trades in the 80s.
If a team owes two first-round picks that are protected, the first is traded as soon as it’s not protected. The second cannot be traded the next year, but is traded the next year after that where it’s not protected. However, since draft picks cannot be traded more than 7 years in advance, the first pick must be dealt within five years (usually not an issue).
And I was slightly off - teams must have a first round pick, not necessarily their first round pick. If Golden State had somebody else’s first round pick next year, they could trade two first-rounders in consecutive years as long as they kept one within those years.
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by The Dark on May 21, 2025 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Easy work around
Make your pick this year, then trade immediately after making your pick.
by Ebomb on May 21, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The only caveat there is that drafted players cannot be traded for 30 days after signing
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by The Dark on May 21, 2025 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Negative
Key word in your phrase is “after signing”
The rights to a draft pick can be traded at any time.
by Ebomb on May 21, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
as a knick fan
i feel like i’ve been stabbed in the face, yet again.
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by stingy d on May 21, 2025 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
If Donatas drops to 20, I’ll ingest my foot
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 21, 2025 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
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