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NBA Draft 2011: Pacers Will Workout Six Players, But Not In Front Of Coach Frank Vogel

The NBA Draft is still plenty of weeks away, but the pre-draft workouts are in full-swing with second round prospects all over the country. Today's featured workout, however, is Indiana as the Pacers plan to host JaJuan Johnson (Purdue), Justin Harper (Richmond), Corey Fisher (Villanova), Darius Morris (Michigan), Josh Selby (Kansas) and Chris Wright (Georgetown) on Thursday afternoon.

As the title of the story implies, however, those six players won't get a chance to showcase their wares in front of Frank Vogel -- the Pacers current head coach. Don't read into that too much, however, because president of basketball operations Larry Bird is just trying to keep other candidates from being jealous.

"I'm talking to some people and I'm talking to (Vogel)," Bird told the Indianapolis Star. "When these guys come in, I don't want them to think he's going to be the coach."

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The name most familiar to the locals is going to be JaJuan Johnson, a rather thin 6-foot-10 forward from Indianapolis. The former Boilermaker is currently slated to go in the top of the second round, but could certainly fall to the Pacers second round pick (42nd overall) if things don't workout as planned during his scheduled workouts.

Johnson's competition at this workout, 6-foot-9 forward Justin Harper -- formerly of the feared Richmond Spiders -- is projected around the same area in most mock drafts. Harper has a bit more upside, however, and is less familiar to NBA scouts after playing in the Atlantic 10 for the past four seasons. 

The four guards invited to the workout are a bit of a crapshoot depending on what the team is looking for, but Josh Selby's a player that could easily begin climbing the draft boards after showing he's a bit more athletic than he was given credit for when the NBA Combine measurements came out on Wednesday.

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totally off-topic, but

i just realized that “Vogel” in german means “Bird” - and i’m from Germany! … … … ummm…ok, back to topic:

i don’t understand Brunner’s statement here:

The other four members of the group, however, are either point guards or combo guards, an area where the Pacers would seem to have plenty of depth.

ok, they have Darren Collison playing the point, and…ummm…who else…? a PG makes the most sense for me for their second round pick, since there are plenty of bigs available in the 10 - 20 range.

by Dubbel on May 26, 2025 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, Lance Stephenson and A.J. Price aren’t great, but they’re both young point guards on the roster.

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by Scott Schroeder on May 26, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do they really have faith in Lance Stephenson?

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by Omaha Sun on May 26, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

But they do have to pay him.

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by Scott Schroeder on May 26, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just checked his Wikipedia site,

and there’s two sentences that absolutely stand out:

On August 15, 2010, Stephenson was arrested for third degree assault after allegedly pushing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs.

(tough guy…)

and

Towards the end of the season, the Pacers demoted Stephenson due to ongoing immaturity issues.

hmmm…by the way, i think he is more a tweener, no real PG.

and A.J. Price’s stats don’t exactly are off the charts:

.356% FG??? umm, that would be a pretty good in 1957, sadly it’s 2011. we can debate on what kind of player the Pacers should draft, but they have never, ever “plenty of depth” at the PG.

by Dubbel on May 26, 2025 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying I agree that they shouldn't draft a point guard

I just think they probably don’t need another young point guard on the roster considering there are two others already on staff.

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by Scott Schroeder on May 26, 2025 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got your point

i just took a look at shamsports.com and noticed that Price’s contract is unguaranteed. we’ll see.

by Dubbel on May 26, 2025 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got some run in the playoffs

And he’s still cheap. Not saying that means they’ll pick up his option, but it’s something.

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by Scott Schroeder on May 26, 2025 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need upgrades at other spots before back-up PG.

If Collison can get back to playing well, he can give you 35+ mpg. They are nothing more than average at SG (unless they keep Granger and roll with the Granger-George-Collison backcourt). PF isn’t the greatest either.

As for Stephenson, I never liked him. He had issues at Cincy, continued to have issues after being drafted, and I don’t think he was that good to begin with. Probably a better athlete than basketball player. I was surprised when I heard them say he was going to play PG.

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by Omaha Sun on May 26, 2025 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, larry bird has stated many times

that he’s not giving up lance stephenson unless he does something absolutely crazy

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by wonillionaire on May 26, 2025 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's unfortunate

that some D-League guys aren’t given that long of a leash…

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by Scott Schroeder on May 26, 2025 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't that kind of go against his whole philosophy?

I thought Bird was trying to get rid of that whole troubled culture that was culminated by the Ron Artest / Stephen Jackson fan-melee (hence the drafting and trading guys like Tyler Hansbrough, Mike Dunleavy, Josh McRoberts, Jeff Foster and every other white guy in the NBA).

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by GoldenNugget on May 26, 2025 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting point. Maybe he thinks the culture in the locker room has changed enough that they can afford one potential troublemaker with high potential on the roster.

by tkired on May 27, 2025 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless he does something absolutely crazy

like jumping into the front-row seats and starting a brawl maybe? good old memories…

by Dubbel on May 27, 2025 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

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