2011 NBA Mock Draft With Explanations
Here's my 2011 NBA mock draft that I wrote up for postingandtoasting.com (Knicks SBNation site). I thought I would share it too as well. I am a proud Knicks fan, so sorry for any homerism.
1: *Cleveland Cavaliers: Will pick: Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke. Should pick: Derrick Williams, PF, Arizona*
The consensus number one pick is Kyrie Irving, and he seems like a pretty safe pick. The Cavs can't affor3d to make a mistake with this pick, which is why they will play it safe with Irving. The Cavs also need to fill up their arena and get a guy who will be the team's star. Derrick Williams is that guy. I also don't see much CP3 in Irving, who wouldn't be any good with nobody to pass to. The Cavs frontline of Williams, Hickson, and Varajeo would be young and promising, and the backcourt can be addressed with pick 4.
2: *Minnesota Timberwolves: Will pick: Derrick Williams PF, Arizona. Should pick: Enes Kanter, PF/C, Turkey*
The Wolves certainly aren't pleased about getting pick #2, and likely missing out on Kyrie Irving. However, it will be a blessing in disguise. Ricky Rubio is rumored to be coming over next year, and if the Wolves believe this, they shouldn't have 3 PGs taken in the top 10 picks. That said, I think the Wolves go BPA. Despite how good I think Williams will be, I'd go Kanter. That would give Love some relief in the post, and it wouldn't take too much PT away from Wes Johnson, last year's #4 pick. Kanter will be a solid Center, and as shown by the Perkins deal, aren't too easy to come by.
3: *Utah Jazz: Will pick: Jan Vesely, SF, Czech Republic. Should pick: Jan Vesely, SF, Czech Republic*
The Jazz are lucky to be in the top 3, and they already have a wealth of bigs with Millsap, Jefferson, and Favors. Kanter is a possible pick, but I don't think the Jazz want their frontcourt to get too jammed up. That said, Vesely is a good pick, and reminds me of a more athletic Andrei Kirilenko. He seems like a perfect fit with a lot of upside, and I think the Jazz recognize that
4: *Cleveland Cavaliers: Will pick: Enes Kanter, PF/C, Turkey. Should pick: Enes Kanter, PF/C, Turkey*
It never hurts to get a quality big, and I think given that the Cavs already took Irving, they could use a good big. The Cavs are still missing a ton of pieces, so getting 2 quality players and presumably a top-5 pick next year could put them on the upswing. The Cavs would have a ton of yioung talent: Kanter, Irving, Hickson, Varejao, and Christian Eyenga.
5: *Toronto Raptors: Will Pick: Brandon Knight, PG, Kentucky. Should pick: Brandon Knight, PG, Kentucky*
This is one of the best fits of the draft. Knight could learn to play a pure PG behind Calderon for a year, and then take over a team that already has Bargnani and DeRozan. The Raptors are still pretty far away, but Knight is a step in the right direction.
6: *Washington Wizards: Will Pick: Kawhi Leonard, SF, San Diego State. Should pick: Tristian Thompson, PF, Texas*
The Wizards have John Wall, who will one day be the best PG in the NBA. Jordan Crawford is another good young piece. I don't think their front line of Andray Blatche and Javale McGee will cut it. McGee seems to play well wtih Wall, so I think Blatche is the one that has to go. Thompson would be an intriguing replacement, but the Wizards need of a SF will cause them to reach for Leonard.
7: *Sacramento Kings: Will Pick: Kemba Walker, PG, UConn. Should pick: Kemba Walker, PG, UConn*
This is a no-brainer to me. He can split PG duties with Tyreke Evans, and bring leadership to a team that has talent but no leadership. Kemba will tear it up in Sac-Town, and as good as he made Jeremy Lamb and Alex Oriakhi look, imagine what he can do with DeMarcus Cousins and Tyreke Evans
8: *Detroit Pistons: Will Pick: Jonas Valanciunas, PF/C, Lithuania. Should pick: Jonas Valanciunas, PF/C, Lithuania*
The Pistons are an organization that isn't quite sure what it's doing. Rodney Stuckey is a good PG, but I'm not sure that they will re-sign him. Austin Daye and Greg Monroe are great pieces along the frontline, and adding a high-ceiling guy in Valanciunas would give the Pistons a foundation for the future. Alec Burks is another solid possibility, depending on the Rip Hamilton situation
9: *Charlotte Bobcats: Will Pick: Bismack Biyombo, C, Congo. Should pick: Tristian Thompson, PF, Texas*
The Bobcats need a lot of pieces. Henderson and Augustin form a talented young backcourt, and Stephen Jackson is a very underrated player. I'm not sold on Byombo, but the Bobcats are headed in the wrong direction, and they want a potential star with the pick. I think Thompson is another high-ceiling player, but he has a higher floor than Biyombo.
10: *Milwaukee Bucks: Will Pick: Alec Burks, SG, Colorado. Should pick: Alec Burks, SG, Colorado*
The Bucks are thrilled that the best SG in the class falls to them at 10. He is a good fit, and gives Jennings and Bogut a good wing scoring option. Burks is a very well-rounded player, and depending on the way the draft falls, he could jump into the top-5. This pick would turn the Bucks back into the playoff team that they were in 2009-2010.
11: Golden State Warriors: Marcus Morris, SF/PF, Kansas
This was a tough pick to mock. While the "trade Stephen Curry" rumors seem to be slowing down, I still think it could happen. But I made the pick based on the roster they have. I think Morris is a decent fit for the Warriors, and I think between Dorell Wright, Ekpe Udoh, Morris, Biedrins, and Lee, the Warriors will have a pretty decent frontcourt to go along with their explosive backcourt. Of course, if a guard is the pick here, Curry is on his way out.
12: Utah Jazz: Jimmer Fredette, PG/SG, BYU
This is why I didn't think the Jazz would take a PG at 3. I think the Jazz wait and give Harris a full year at PG before finding a replacement. In the meantime, Jimmer can be instant offense, and who knows, he could become a starting PG or SG. I think Jimmer in Utah is a good PR move, and a smart Basketball move. Is this a reach? Yes, but I think, like Tyler Hansbrough of a few years ago, he will live up to expectations.
13: Phoenix Suns: Tyler Honeycutt, SF, UCLA
This is probably going to raise a few eyebrows, but it seems like a good fit. Many see Honeycutt as one-dimensional, but I think he has the potential to be an all-star caliber wing scorer. In the up-pace system in Phoenix, and with Nash (most likely) throwing him dimes, he could settle right in, and along with Aaron Brooks and Marcin Gortat, the Suns will have a good young core. Tristian Thompson is also a possibility.
14: Houston Rockets: Chris Singleton, SF, Florida State
I think the Rockets are pretty far from competing for a playoff spot. But they seem pleased with Kyle Lowry and Goran Dragic at the point, and Kevin Martin is one of the most underrated scorers in the game. Plus, if Singleton is the pick, the Rockets will have a lot of former lottery picks on the frontline, with Singleton, Patrick Patterson, Hasheem Thabeet, and Jordan Hill; and they have good scrappy veterans in Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola. This pick seems like a probable trade piece, as the Rockets may only use one of their 1st round picks.
15: Indiana Pacers: Darius Morris, PG, Michigan
Pick that makes sense for the Pacers. They have a good amount of front-court depth, and the PG situation is becoming questionable. Collison regressed from his breakout year in NO, but proved to be for the most part competent. But I think the Pacers may want an upgrade, or at least depth. T.J. Ford is done. The Pacers get a guy who should pass the ball to Granger, and can set up Hansbrough and Hibbert in the right place.
16: Philadelphia 76ers: Tristian Thompson, PF, Texas
This is much farther than I think Thompson should slide, and the Sixers get a high-ceiling PF who will backup and eventually replace Elton Brand. I think the sky is the limit for this guy, but there is always the chance he turns into Anthony Randolph.
17: New York Knicks: Kenneth Faried, PF, Morehead State
Okay, I may get some hate for picking Faried over Markieff, but here is why it makes sense. As we all know, the Knicks are making a strong push for, or at least in the running for, Dwight, CP3, even Deron. Now, I wouldn't go PG early unless Kemba or Knight fell to us, just because that would be a waste if we got CP3 or Deron. I don't want the Knicks to be hamstrung in 2012. Drafting Markieff would give us a big, but I don't think he's much more than a big body with a decent mid range game. Faried is perfect. He rebounds like a beast, he can block shots from the weak side, he can bang in the post, obviously not with big Cs, but with PFs, he can. He is quick enough to stay with PFs with a face up game. Best part about Faried is that no matter who we get, whether it's Dwight, CP3, Deron, or nobody, the Knicks will have a good "glue" guy who can provide energy and leadership off the bench, something that would help TD and Bully.
18: Washington Wizards: Markieff Morris, PF, Kansas
The Wizards got their SF in Leonard already, so now they go with a big. He won't be looked to to score much with Wall, McGee, Crawford, and Young, but he should be an okay rebounder and an okay defender. He is at least a young upgrade over Andray Blatche.
19: Charlotte Bobcats: Donatas Motiejunas, PF, Lithuania
The Bobcats have 2 picks, and with both of them they are swinging for the fences with overseas players (they took Biyombo at 9). This is an intriguing player, as he can score very effectively and efficiently. His motor is questionable, but many are comparing him to Bargnani, and he would complement the defense and energy of Biyombo quite well. Perhaps this would be the spark that ignites the Bobcats organization.
20: Minnesota TImberwolves: Klay Thompson, SG, Washington State
This is a guy I hadn't heard much about, but he has been flying up draft boards. From what I've seen, he's a very good shooter, which should fit around Love, Rubio, and Derrick WIlliams quite well. I think Martell Webster is a good player, but I think Thompson is an upgrade and a better fit. This may be a reach, but I think that a good shooter would succeed alongside Love and Rubio.
21: Portland Trail Blazers: Reggie Jackson, PG/SG, Boston College
The Blazers are looking okay, other than the PG position. They were rumored to be shopping Andre Miller, who is on the tail end of his career. If Miller were gone, the starting PG would be Patty Mills. This isn't a perfect pick, as Reggie isn't a pure PG yet, but he is better in my book than Selby. But this would leave the Blazers with Armon Johnson, Patty Mills, Andre Miller, Reggie, and Wes Matthews, an undersized 2, and Brandon Roy in the backcourt. The backcourt would be crowded, and I think there would be a trade or two, but the Blazers definitely need to revamp their backcourt.
22: Denver Nuggets: Tobias Harris, SF/PF, Tennessee
The Nuggets, as we all know, are rich with young talent. They are losing Nene and Kenyon and possibly Wilson. Therefore, they go for a physical yet talented tweener in Harris. He gives them some depth and could become a starter. SG is also a position that could be addressed, but the right player isn't there.
23: Houston Rockets: Davis Bertans, SF/PF, Latvia
I am really impressed with this kid. He reminds me a lot of Dirk, honestly. He can create his own shot pretty well, and he has a high-release jumper that is deadly and ranges out to 3 point land. He's not quite as physical, and he doesn't go into the post often, but Houston is a perfect place for a project like Bertans. I think it is also conceivable that the Rockets could draft a project PG here, like an Iman Shumpert or Charles Jenkins, or even Josh Selby. Lowry and Dragic are decent, but neither are bona fide stars.
24: Oklahoma City Thunder: Justin Harper, SF/PF, Richmond
This may be a little high for him, but he would fit great in OKC. The Thunder acquired Perkins and have Collison and Ibaka as other quality bigs. This guy gives them a little bit of room to stretch the floor. Having watched the Thunder in the playoffs, I've noticed that things get pretty crowded in the paint with Perkins, Westbrook's outside shot is marginal, and Durant and Harden are the only 3 point threats who play a significant amount of time. Richmond gives them another one.
25: Boston Celtics: Jordan Williams, PF/C, Maryland
It doesn't take a genius to question the Perkins trade. The Cs want another Perkins. They won't find one in this draft, but Williams is a pretty close option. He is big, and his jumpshot is very clean. He has big shoes to fill, but he has a lot of potential and Doc should ease him into games at the C or PF position.
26: Dallas Mavericks: Jordan Hamilton, SF, Texas
One thing is for sure about Hamilton. He can score. The Mavs have been looking for help at the 3 since Caron Butler went down. The Mavs get at least a bench scorer and an insurance policy for the indefinite future of Caron Butler. He is great value at 26, as some scouts think he could creep into the lottery.
27: New Jersey Nets: JaJuan Johnson, PF, Purdue
The Nets' frontcourt looks kind of shaky and very shallow. Travis Outlaw's big contract is not looking too stellar, and Kris Humphries seems like a likely candidate to struggle next year. That said, the Nets get an athletic big to replace Favors and possibly run a dangerous pick-and-roll with Deron, who will probably be gone after 2012 anyway. The Nets got ripped off in the Deron deal, and this will be illustrated in the coming years when their draft picks are incessantly going to Utah.
28: Chicago Bulls: Nikola Mrotic, SF/PF, Montenegro
The Bulls are deep enough to take a project at pick 28. Mrotic is a bit of a question mark, as I've seen mocks that have him in the lottery. He is definitely a good shooter, and while he is limited athletically, almost all other parts of his game are pretty good.
29: San Antonio Spurs: Kyle Singler, SF, Duke
The Spurs continue to age, and until they realize that they are aging and make a trade, they will draft players who can make an immediate impact. Singler is that guy. He is now a fringe first rounder, even though last year he looked like a lottery pick. He should be a good shooter and a decent defender, and while his ceiling is low, he is still a decent pickup for the Spurs
30: Chicago Bulls: Marshon Brooks, SG, Providence
The Bulls need a SG, and while Keith Bogans is a good "glue" guy, he is destined to be a bench player. Marshon is a guy who can score many different ways, but he's not a complete ball-stopper. Brooks could, barring a lockout, earn the starting job at SG for the young and talented Bulls. Brooks is a very underrated player who could make a big splash at the next level.
Okay, that's the end of the first round. I hope you enjoyed it. How was this installment? Feedback is appreciated.
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for the possible NBA Champions.
You might want to edit that.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
I can definitely see the first 5 picks happening that way. I think Valenciunas might be the pick for TOR though. I’ve been talking to a Raps fan, and he said the team wants to either move Bargs to the 4 or trade him. Valenciunas could be a great complement for Bargnani, handling all the dirty work inside while Bargs lit it up from the perimeter. That would limit Ed Davis growth though, so it depends on what the TOR frontcourt thinks of tthose guys. I can see a PG though, and I agree it would be a good fit for Knight.
Why do you like Tristan Thomspon so much? He’s a bit small and I didn’t notice any special skills that would help hims overcome that. He’s a nice player, but I don’t think he’ll be that great.
I’ve heard that the DET fanbase is in love with Biyombo! (I feel like any time you type his name an ! should be included), and he could be an excellent complement to Monroe. If Valenciunas falls though, he’d be a great pick as well.
I think GS would be stupid to trade Curry. He went through a sophomore slump, but he was injured most of the year and it sounds like the coach wasn’t too kind to him. I’d see what they could get for Ellis though.
I don’t know about Honeycutt. There some questions about Motiejunas, but I think I’d prefer him over Honeycutt. I’d also take Hamilton and possibly Thomspon first. Even Klay Thompson (not my favorite) would be worth a look. You have all these guys falling pretty far.
I agree HOU is a prime candidate to trade their pick(s). They have plenty of depth on the roster, they just need A) Yao to stay healthy (good luck) or B) to upgrade their talent. Another depth pick - which is what the 14th pick would likely be - wouldn’t really help them all that much IMO unless they already had a trade planned.
I can see Faried to NYK. He does everything Amar’e doesn’t, so he’d be a great complement.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
Oops, continuing:
Andray Blatche may be a headcase, but he’s more talented than Markieff Morris. I agree that tehy will do all they can to ditch Blatche though.
Motiejunas and Thompson are great picks, but I’m not sure they’ll be there.
Brooks seems to be rising recently, so I’d be surprised if he made it to 28. But if he’s there, it’s a great pick.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Don't agree with all of it
But thanks for posting!
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by Scott Schroeder on May 27, 2025 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
Yep.
Often times the mocks that don’t follow conventional wisdom or even logical analysis turn out to be more correct. Remember, David Kahn is one of the men picking players.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
No problem. I enjoy sharing it various places to see the feedback I get.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Scott, this is some really good stuff you are posting here.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Very good work done, i like that you stated your opinion on who the teams should draft.
i agree with you on a lot of things, but i disagree on a few things too.
First of all, it’s debateble if the Cavs should pick their PG at #1 (Irving) or #4 (Knight). It’s a bit of a gamble to take
Williams at #1 and hope that Knight will be there at #4. If they do pick Williams, then the Wolves will 100% pick Irving,
there’s no doubt about it for me. He is considered the most talented player in the draft and some believe he can be a Chris Paul kinda player (me neither, but i think he can be a top 5 - 10 PG). They can trade him for a valuable piece they need, or they can trade Rubio’s rights (i just heard someone yell “KNICKS!”…weird), whatever.
That leads to the Jazz, and i’m not so sure they would pass on Knight. If they pick Knight, the Cavs won’t have a PG available who is worth the 4th pick (Walker is not, believe me), so they will likely have to pick a big guy here. That means, they would have at frontcourt of Williams (solid player, but no franchise guy in my opinion), Hickson, varejo and the 4th overall - and an out of shape ballhog (aka Baron Davis) running the point. Lemme think about that for a second: do you either want A) a promising young PG, who is known for his court vision and decision making, or B) Baron Davis running your team? Yes, me too.
No offense towards you, but i think it would be too much of a gamble to hope that Knight will be there at #4. I would take the sure thing at #1, which means that at least one of these players will for sure be available at #4: Williams (unlikely), Kanter (50/50), Vesley (likely), Valanciunas (lkely).
I agree with you that Vesley is a perfect fit for the Jazz, but not at #3. If they want him, i expect them to trade down to #5 or #6.
I too had the Cavs picking Kanter at #4 for a while, but then i read a chat with Jonathan Givony (of DX, can’t remember which site the chat was on though) where he stated that the Cavs have Valanciunas higher on their list. So i trust him at that point, although this might change once they brought their prospects in for a workout.
The Raps picking Knight at #5 would be intruiging, and i believe they would pull the trigger if he falls to them. I just don’t see him dropping past #3. If he’s gone, they will go big (as Omaha Sun stated too) and pick either Kanter or Valanciunas, who ever is available.
The Wizards pick is hard to project. I have Vesley there in my mock draft, but there Leonard is possible too, as is Biyambo!
Btw, Biyambo! is already my favorite player in this draft, although i have only seen one video of him. I can’t help myself, but he has a cool name (favorite nickname so far: Mack-Bo), looks like a uber-athlete, has this competetive look on his face on all the pictures (the exact opposite of Greg Monroe, who looks more like a Sam Perkins) and is a natural shot-blocker.
Every team needs a Mack-Bo!
The Kings’ pick is a no-brainer. Haven’t seen a single mock draft i trust that hasn’t Walker at #7.
If the Pistons could somehow land Valanciunas (y’all are copy-and-pasting the name too, right?) a no-brainer. I just don’t think he slips this far, my pick: Mack-Bo!
The Cats should obviously pick the best player available here, since 90% of their players suck. I don’t think Thompson would be this player, i think they should go with Marcus Morris. But, as i already wrote in some comments, i believe the Cats will screw up the draft big time and pick and player WAY too high at #9.
I have Burks at #10, too, great fit.
I agree with the Warriors pick, it will depend on the new coach’s style and philosophy too. I don’t think they will trade neither Curry nor Ellis. If available, i have them picking Leonard there. But it’s very hard to predict it.
Ok, let’s now only cover the picks i totally disagree with (my fingers hurt):
- Tyler Honeycutt at #13: i’m not a Suns insider, but i think they don’t have that much a need on the position Tyler plays. I expect them to take a PF here.
- Motiejunas at #19: would be an absolute steal, but i don’t think he will slip outside the lottery.
- Klay Thompson at #20: i haven’t heard much of him either, but i heard he already has a promise from Indiana at # 15 (dunnoi where i read that…i read too much right now).
- Brooks at #30: i really wish my Bulls could land him, but i think he will climb the boards even more and will get pickend in the 20 - 25 range.
Overall, very good work. Btw, with all the great work of fans creating mock drafts, i wonder why teams haven’t made up official polls yet, in which the fans would be able to vote for a second round pick. Kidding aside, i think there really are some draftnicks out there with much more knowledge of the players than the GMs.
by Dubbel on May 27, 2025 5:33 AM EDT reply actions
Suns SFs: Grant Hill, Jared Dudley, Josh Childress, Mickael Pietrus.
Suns PFs: Channing Frye, Hakim Warrick (yuck), Gani Lawal (IDK yet).
Suns SGs: …
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Grant Hill is a free agent now, no?
As for Childress and Warrick, sorry. CHanning is not bat, but overvalued. Nash, I assume, will retire or (fingers crossed) reunite with D’antoni in NY after this year. I’m far from a Suns insider so correct me if I’m wrong. I doubt the Suns want Vince Carters 18 mil team option. So you are kind of screwed at SG. I didn’t realize you guys had Dudley for so long. Maybe a SF isn’t the right move. However, you have Brooks and Gortat, who are solid young players and would be great COMPLEMENTARY players on a championship team. You just need a go-to guy.
Robin Lopez seems like a good trade candidate, so you could probably pick up a decent SG in a trade if desired. Gosh, the more I think about it, the more I think that the pick should be Motiejunas. That would leave you with a lineup of: Brooks, traded SG, Dudley, Motiejunas, Gortat with Frye as a versatile 6th man. However, this pretty much means you are just going to accept the fact that Warrick blows and staple him to the bench. I don’t know, and I don’t think the Suns know. However, they need a star, and I think they are going to go with someone with star potential.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Conventional wisdom is that Grant is going to re-sign with PHX. He alreayd had a chance to go ring-chasing, and decided he would rather stay in the Valley of the Sun. Unless Sarver decides to blow everything up and ship out Nash, I’d be absolutely schocked if Grant isn’t wearing a PHX jersey next year.
Childress is a lot better than what he showed last year. He broke his finger in the preseason and was knocked out of the line-up before he recovered and adapted to the American game. He gave some really good minutes towards the end of the season. Channing isn’t over-valued. He is what he is - a great bench player who can start if need be. Unless the injuries begin to mount up or he loses interest, I think Steve might play at least 1 more year after his contract expires. I don’t see him going anywhere else though, unless Sarvar decides to ship him ou like I mentioned above. Vince Carter will be paid his $4 min and told not to let the door hit him on the way out. We just re-upped Dudz this year to a very reasonable contract. Brooks is a RFA, and he might not even be back. He was far from impressive, and if anybody offers him starter money he’s likely gone.
I agree Robin has some value, and I wouldn’t be against shipping him out if we need to. Motiejunas is interesting, but he’s also very scary to me. We already know that Warrick blows and hope to be stapling him to someone else’s bench. I agree we need a star, and badly.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
But didn't Channing start a bunch of games?
He’s not a starter. That’s more of what I meant. Interesting point on Brooks. If the Suns gave up a 1st rounder and Dragic for him, I would assume that they planned on re-signing him. So as a Suns fan, do you see them drafting a PG, and do you want them to draft a PG? I never heard that, but it seems likely.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Channing is good enough to start if we have dynamic starters (like a high-scoring SG) around him. He’s good enough if we need him to, but ideally he’s the first big off the bench playing both spots.
Brooks did little to impress the fanbase at least. That was mroe of a win-now move that back-fired.
I don’t think the value for a PG will be there.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Win-now? The Suns have Nash.
Sorry if I’m missing something, but doesn’t he give you a better chance to win now at PG?
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we were fine when Steve was on the court.
The problem came when he took a rest. Goran Dragic regressed terribly. I believe we had the biggest +/- differential when Steve was on and off the court.
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by Omaha Sun on May 30, 2025 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Having Brooks back him up,
who apparently, was going through all the “go through injury - check, lose starting job - check, get traded - check” and is not really a distributing PG didn’t help either.
It’d be very interesting if Jimmer falls to them though.
by paolost on May 31, 2025 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want Jimmer.
Our FO was apparently hoping a change of scenery would help him return to his MIP form. We needed a scorer off the bench as the bench that was so strong last year was wrecked by trades and FA decisions (half the bench became starters, and the other half were gone).
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't a first round pick, albeit a late one,
Really worth giving up for a one year backup? Seems like it to me.
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by LesterJohn on May 31, 2025 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially this year.
Gani Lawal, our 2nd rounder from last year, is probably as good or better than many of the guys that would have been options at the end of the first. It just didn’t work out.
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you want Joe Johnson back?
Pietrus, Robin Lopez, and a #1 should do the trick.
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by Mr. Sanchez on May 28, 2025 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Do the Hawks hate Joe's contract that bad already?
Because that seems like just a salary balancing trade, not one where the Hawks get much in return.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, they do...
he’s making championship caliber leader money, and he’s not.
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by Mr. Sanchez on May 31, 2025 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They gave it to him.
They were the ones who were unwilling to let him go. They have to deal with the consequences.
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if it's Johnson, per se, but
for sure between Smith, Crawford, Horford, and Johnson, something is not right.
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by LesterJohn on May 31, 2025 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t like the Knicks pick at all.
Faried is good and all, but passing up Montejounas as well as others for miniature Reggie Evans is not a good idea.
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by Rorschach44 on May 27, 2025 8:31 AM EDT reply actions
The Wizards have John Wall, who will one day be the best PG in the NBA.
I agree!
I don’t think their front line of Andray Blatche and Javale McGee will cut it. McGee seems to play well wtih Wall, so I think Blatche is the one that has to go.
Definitely agree with this. McGee has so much potential and is still only 23 years old. he is going to turn into a very solid player once we get the rest of the lineup straight and get a banger underneath next to McGee instead of a Kevin Garnett wannabe which Blatche is.
I like the Leonard pick. He reminds me of Rudy Gay somewhat. Morris pick is good as well. We have the guards, we just need to fill the 3-4 spots.
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by Mr MaLoR on May 27, 2025 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
Wall to me is everything Derrick Rose is, just a better passer.
Once the jumper develops, he’ll be great (exactly what was said about Rose). Plus, he’s an excellent passer. He’ll be bar-none the best PG in the league.
I just think Kawhi Leonard is not worthy of a lottery pick. An athletic slasher with no jump shot and above average defense and way above average rebounding. Kind of the Antithesis of Rudy Gay. Maybe a decent fit, but there are more SFs down by pick 18 (presumably) than PFs and more PFs at 6 than SFs. I just think if you guys got Valanciunas or Thompson at 6, you could get Jordan Hamilton or Tobias Harris or Tyler Honeycutt or Chris Singleton (IMO the best fit on the Wizards) at 18.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If Derrick could be MVP
just because of him being able to score a lot of points due to his elite athleticism and his good but not excellent passing skills (taking into account also how he reads situations and makes his teammates better), we mortals can only imagine what John Wall will be like once he understands the “how to dominate” part.
by paolost on May 31, 2025 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. I sure think so. The best PG in the game one day soon.
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by LesterJohn on May 31, 2025 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I too agree
that John Wall will soon be the best PG in the league. I see him as a Derrick Rose 2.0, who can shoot better, though Rose might always be the better finisher around the rim.
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by GoldenNugget on May 28, 2025 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wall isn’t that great of a shooter though. He reminds me of a Westbrook/Rondo combo. He has the Westbrook long, fast strides down the court and Rondo’s lanky build but even taller.
You guys actually have more hype for Wall than I do, but I love seeing that. I feel that in order for him to reach his full potential, we will need to put more pieces around him. But unfortunately, it looks as if the very best players in the league are all going to about 3-4 teams, so Wizards will live in mediocrity for another 15 years like they have been.
We won’t be able to rely on draft picks unless we are getting a Derrick Williams type player. With the Heat combo and Dwight Howard going somewhere int he East and the Knicks getting stronger, Wall’s stardom will never be put to good use. He has MVP type of abilities, but unfortunately for him he also has Ernie Grunfield as his GM. Hopefully Leonsis and can turn this franchise around like he did the Capitals.
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by Mr MaLoR on May 28, 2025 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The Wizards, I believe, are in decent position.
I know Rashard’s contract is crippling, but they still have young talent. I think they will be where CHI/OKC are now in a few years. They have Wall, who is better than Rose. They have McGee, who is at least comparable to Noah, and they have Crawford and Young, who frankly are what CHI is lacking. If the Wiz can add a PF and SF, whether through Draft or FA, they could be beastly. However, I think they have the wrong guy at GM and the wrong coach.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I love the Wiz back-court right now, and really, it’s a team that’s solid at every position — solid, not great. If they can hit on their pick this year, I see the Wiz as a pretty good team in the near future, but MaLoR is right in that only a few teams will have the opportunity to chase a championship in the near future.
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by GoldenNugget on May 29, 2025 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If a major FA chooses to go there...
As a Knicks fan, I was just praying that we didn’t put all of our eggs into the LeJackass sweepstakes and strike out completely and pull a Nets (give big contracts to Travis Outlaw and Anthony Morrow). When we got Amar’e, I was ecstatic, and the Wiz just need one star or above average FA to commit there.
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by LesterJohn on May 29, 2025 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Wall was like 5th in the league in Assists.
His passing ability impresses the hell out of me.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
he’ll never be the scorer that Rose is, but he’ll be a far better floor general IMO. Same athleticism, differnet mentality and skillset.
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by Omaha Sun on May 30, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's rare to see a PG with that athleticism
accept a pure-PG role and become a floor general, not a volume scorer. Like I said, this guy is special.
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by LesterJohn on Jun 2, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
He still has a lot of work to do though.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 2, 2025 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Mr MaLoR, Dubbel, and Omaha Sun for your opinions. Instead of trying to piece responses to all of you, I'm just going to reply to all of these here.
My theory on a team that completely sucks (no offense, Cavs fans). This works for both NFL and NBA. When you are more than 1 player away from the playoffs, you just take a solid player and don’t reach for a sexy position (PG in NBA, QB in NFL). The Panthers should have gone with Peterson out of LSU, here’s why. The team would still suck, but they would have had 1 more solid player. Therefore, you will likely have a high pick in the next year’s draft as well, where you may not have to reach for a sexy position. The same goes for the Cavs. Take Williams, and with a high pick next year, go PG.
In both cases, just make sure you get your guy. I don’t think Newton was CAR’s guy, and I don’t think Irving is the Cavs’ guy. If Knight or Kemba is, fine. But the point is don’t take a PG or a QB just for the sake of taking one. Sorry for the analogy if it was confusing.
I think that the Cavs should go Williams and Kanter, because Varejao and Hickson are very solid players, but not great. The Cavs don’t need to go PG because they have Sessions, and he would presumably run the offense, not Baron.
As for pick 3, everyone seems to think that the Jazz need to go PG. I disagree. Harris was the centerpiece of the deal, and I think the Jazz give him a full year at PG before taking an heir apparent. However, an Andrei Kirilenko heir apparent seems to be a need. He’s strong and very athletic for a PF.
I think the Pistons may go Biyombo, but I don’t think it’s that great of an idea. I think they could go with Alec Burks or even Motiejunas, both of whom could bring some excitement to that team. I’m concerned about Biyombo’s skill level outside of Defense. I’ve heard his rebounding is surprisingly bad and offense is terrible.
I don’t necessarily think that the Curry trade is a good idea, but the owner or GM (I can’t remember which) said that it would happen, and those are the guys in charge. I think the Warriors still like Udoh, so that
I think the Raptors are a perfect fit for Knight, 100%. Calderon is there, but could be traded after another year or 2. Knight is not ready at all, but could be great in 2 or 3 years. I just think that the terrible signings of Amir Johnson and Reggie Evans will cost them. James Johnson appears to be progressing, DeMar is a stud, and Bargnani is starting to earn his status as a #1 pick. Interesting thought about Valanciunas, but I think the need for a young PG is glaring (Bayless is not a pure point).
I like Tristian Thompson because the only knock on him is his J and his motor, things that can be taught. He’s a great shot-blocker, a good post player, a great rebounder, and he’s strong and very athletic for a PF.
I don’t think the Curry trade is the right move, but the owner said that Curry would be traded. I think Marcus Morris can back up Udoh and Wright, but he is also an insurance policy in case Udoh sucks.
I really think now after looking at it that Motiejunas should be the pick at 13 for the Suns. I honestly think that he may be directly switched with Honeycutt, who could try to develop in Charlotte and has great potential.
I don’t know why the Pacers would go SG. They have Dahntay Jones, Brandon Rush, Mike Dunleavy, and Paul George. I think the Pacers need a backup PG for the present and also a PG for the future in case Collison can’t cut it.
I love Amare, he’s my favorite player, but I think the Knicks need a rebounder and a guy who will stay and get time even if the Knicks get Dwight, CP3, or Deron.
As for Brooks, I could see the Nuggets, Celtics, and Nets taking him ahead of Chicago, but that’s probably it. The Nuggets have a lot of holes, so they probably go BPA (likely not Brooks at that point). The Celts would love a future Ray-Ray replacement, but they really need a big. It could be Williams or Vucevic at this point. The Nets suck at drafting, and they need everything but a C (I wouldn’t be surprised to see them draft a DWill replacement). They seem to like Morrow, who is pretty much the same player as Brooks, and the Nets need for a SF and PF is greater.
Thank you all for the feedback. I love debating about player transactions, and drafts are probably the most concentrated versions of player transactions. I will probably do one more mock closer to when the actual draft actually happens.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
I love Amare, he’s my favorite player, but I think the Knicks need a rebounder and a guy who will stay and get time even if the Knicks get Dwight, CP3, or Deron.
Agreed. I’m also a Knicks fan and feel we really are missing just a tough nose player who plays D and boards. We have enough scoring options with Melo, Amare and Chauncey. The common theme between the championship teams this past decade has been great defense. Even though it is becoming more of an offensive league it is still the teams that play D that win championships and we need more players with that commitment to surround our two superstars.
by AV23 on May 27, 2025 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense and rebounding.
Can’t say it enough. I wouldn’t even be overly pissed if they reached for a Center. Of course, if Faried is there, take him, if not, go for a PG or C, no wing players
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I don’t mind Turiaf coming off the bench, but I would prefer to find a starting C over him. I’m not very impressed with this class and don’t know that we find even a future starter at our pick. I guess there’s always free agency.
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by AV23 on May 27, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen to yourselves.
What the hell good is a rebounding, defensive-oriented PF if Amare is going to play a huge bulk of the minutes?
Unless you believe in Rautins, a long and athletic PG that can contribute right away defensively and getting out on the break, and that has upside, is the way to go. That, or a shot-blocking and rebounding C that can help cover for Stat’s weaknesses.
If we’re lucky, the PG shows flashes of being a Westbrook (which is not a good fit here, but would be excellent off the bench in the meantime), and we could trade him basically straight up for CP3.
by Crackback on May 28, 2025 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who said anything about a PF? I believe every comment said C, so I’m not sure what you are getting at? Yes a PG would also be another option as well.
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by AV23 on May 28, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude is 6-8. In what world is he playing center?
And please don’t invoke Ben Wallace.
by Crackback on May 28, 2025 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In an up-tempo offense, where you have a good rebounder playing PF (Faried),
and you aren’t playing Dwight or Marc Gasol or any other beast of a Center, Amar’e can play Center.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But what do we do with the PG we pick if we have a chance to get CP3
or Deron or even Nash? I think Faried fits because he will always have a defined role on the team, regardless of acquisitions.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If he flashes potential maybe we can use him as a trade chip, or maybe even remove the desire for CP3 or Deron.
by Crackback on May 29, 2025 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would you want to remove the desire for CP3/Deron?
This team clearly needs another “guy” and I don’t think we’ll get that “guy” with pick 17.
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by LesterJohn on May 29, 2025 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know how much Extra E played this year?
And he’s a PF. Just saying. Faried could get 20 quality minutes a game of great rebounding.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Extra E was versatile offensively as well as defensively.
He could guard the 3 or the 4 and he stretches floor offensively, so he can play with both Melo and Amare.
Faried can’t play center; and he can’t be on the floor at the same time as Amare, unless Amare is playing center (which all agree we don’t want to see a whole lot of bc he takes a beating bc he’s UNDERSIZED).
by Crackback on May 29, 2025 6:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My point is that a PF can play 20 min/game behind Amare and Melo.
And even with Extra E in the game, Amar’e played C. So my point is it’s possible. That’s all.
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by LesterJohn on May 29, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
See, I don’t think Irving is slated at #1 because he’s the “sexy” pick. I think he’s there because he’s the best prospect. The football analogy doesn’t work for me because there isn’t 1 position that is head and shoulders more valuable than the others like in football. As for the take “Williams and the next available PG” strategy, I don’t think Kembba or Knight are close enought o Irving to make that worth it. A new PG and Big to go with him is just fine IMO. Cavs can take any position and it would bed fine, so just go with the best talent.
The Jazz are tough to figure out. They appear to have their PF spot set, and they are likely stuck with Big Al for better or worse. They have Devin Harris at PG, who has had an All-Star season and is far from a scrub. On the wing, it’s a bit of a mess. Hayward was their lotto pick last eyar, and although I think he will be a good player he is far from dynamic. What are they doing with Kirilenko? Is Miles going back? I think they need a wing and at least a back-up PG.
I agree TOR could be a great fit for Knight. But I don’t think the PG need is “glaring.” If a PG is the best player available, take him without hesitation. But if they value one of the bigs more, then they are just fine with Calderon or trading Calderon later.
I liked Thompson in college, but I don’t know how much of a differnce-maker he’ll be in the NBA against bigger more athletic bodies.
Where did the GS FO say they were trading Curry?
The Pacers’ SG position, unless they plan on keeping Granger and rolling with George and Danny at the 2 and 3, is average. Jones and Rush are average and Dunleavy’s contract is up IIRC.
MIN might be a likely suitor for Brooks.
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by Omaha Sun on May 27, 2025 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brooks to MIN makes sense, but
really, not sure he’s climbed to that high yet. I don’t see why Indy wouldn’t to George and Granger at the 2/3. The GS owner or GM (can’t remember which) said Curry would be traded. He said it either just before the beginning of this past season or during it.
Do the Jazz really go for a backup PG at 3 overall? I doubt it. I think that’s what pick 12 is for: Jimmer. It would be a great PR move and a decent basketball move. As you said, they need a backup PG and a SG, why not get a guy that can fit both molds with one pick?
We clearly differ on Irving. I see nothing special. I think Williams is head-and-shoulders above Irving, and I honestly don’t think Knight and Kemba are far off of him. I’d go Williams and Kemba/Knight.
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by LesterJohn on May 27, 2025 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem on contributing to this, you did a very nice job. NBA mocks are tough to do because it is harder to gauge how good or bad a player is in bball as compared to football in my opinion.
I am actually thinking about doing a mock soon. I think I have a good grasp of the lottery picks, but after that could be a struggle for me because of how little first round talent is actually in this draft.
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by Mr MaLoR on May 27, 2025 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a tip. Do them in sections of 5 or 10 picks at a time.
That’s how I did mine and it just simplified things.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dissagree with No. 3
I don’t know why everyone is so enamored with Vesely. He’s athletic and…. he’s athletic. The NBA is littered with athleticism. To me, you have to be able to do something else really well, and I just don’t see it with this guy.
Otherwise, the thing I like most about this draft is that I find myself agreeing with a lot of your reasoning. Jimmer at 12 makes a lot more sense than people think, as he’s one of the more athletic guys in the draft and can shoot lights out, which is exactly what the Jazz need at this point. I also think the Rockets will take Singelton, Thompson at 20 makes a ton of sense, as does Jackson one pick later and Brooks to the Bulls (though I think he’ll go earlier) and Singler to the Spurs.
Reaches: Honeycut, Morris and especially Williams at 25. There is simply no way Williams goes that early if guys like Vucevic and Tyler are still on the board, who are much more talented than he.
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by GoldenNugget on May 28, 2025 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
I'm higher on Vesely than you, but still, who do the Jazz take?
I honestly don’t think they take a PG because of Jimmer being there at 12 and because I believe that the Jazz give Devin Harris a full season before trying to find a replacement. Vesely isn’t a perfect fit, but since BPA is likely Kanter, who they don’t need, who can they take? Now I could see them trading with the Wizards for pick 6 and change, then taking Alec Burks or Kawhi Leonard at 6. Kanter has repeatedly said that he likes John Wall and that he would love to be a Wizard, so even though I don’t know if the Wiz like him enough to trade up, I think it’s quite possible.
As for Williams, I think his stock is falling. Like I said, I did this pre-combine for PostingandToasting.com, so a few picks (Namely Jordan Williams and Marshon Brooks) are a little out of place.
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by LesterJohn on May 28, 2025 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think trading down would be an option
But I see them taking Knight at the end of the day. Yes they have Harris, but he’s not the future of the franchise, so he shouldn’t get in the way of what might turn out to be the best PG in the Draft. I’m just really high on Knight; I think he’s gonna be a stud in the NBA, and I think O’Connor knows this too.
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by GoldenNugget on May 29, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Why isn't Devin the face of the franchise?
He showed plenty of flashes on the Nets and Mavs. Any organization that evaluates a young guy based on performance after a mid-season trade is ridiculous. Especially with a PG, who has to learn on the fly how others play and how others succeed. Harris wasn’t lights out good or bad, but as I said, I think he deserves a full season with the Jazz as His Team.
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by LesterJohn on May 29, 2025 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Utah needs to do a complete rebuild.
In my opinion, that includes trading away Jefferson, Harris and Millsap for whatever combination of young guys, expiring contracts and picks they can get. These guys do not fit into their future core and if they do a proper blow up, they will have at least 6 lottery picks from 2010 to 2012.
Build around Hayward/Favors/Future lottery picks.
Harris just doesn’t fit into what they should be doing.
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by gtbassett on May 31, 2025 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I diasgree.
NBA proven players are still more valuable than potential Lottery picks.
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by LesterJohn on Jun 1, 2025 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
With the news that the cavs might add the 8th pick,
I think they should just keep it instead of trading away number 4 and number 8 for number 2. They could grab Irving, maybe Williams or Kanter, and someone like Burks and have a good young core to build around plus a potential top 5 pick next season to grab someone like sullinger or barnes.
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by buckeyefan55 on May 31, 2025 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
I frankly don't see much in Irving, so the best case for them is:
1: Williams.
4: Kemba
8: (depending on who is there, in order)
Burks
Biyombo
Motiejunas
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