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NBA Draft's Third Round Might Be Best Thing To Come From Lockout

The NBA Draft board would look quite different than this if the NBA's current proposal goes through after the NBA lockout.

Let's get this clear right off the bat: the NBA lockout is by no means a good thing in any way, shape or form. That said, if somehow there are no regular season games missed, an addition of a third round to the annual NBA Draft would make the lockout seem a lot less pointless than it currently stands with the main argument centered around billionaires and millionaires making more money.

I've suggested the NBA adds a third round to the NBA Draft for quite a few years, most recently summarized in this post from July, but former ESPN writer Chris Sheridan reports that the NBA has actually proposed a few options regarding extending the draft during the current collective bargaining talks.

Unfortunately, it seems that adding a third round could be a quite convoluted set-up -- at least compared to the easiest solution of simply tacking on another 30 picks to the end of the second round -- if Sheridan's sources aren't simply spit-balling.

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  • Under one proposal, the 15 teams with the worst records would continue to pick 1st through 15th, but then would also have the 16th through 30th picks. The teams with the top 15 records would have the first 15 picks of the second round, then would have the 44th through 60th picks, too. Under this proposal, the Chicago Bulls (whose 62-20 record was the league's best last season) would have the 45th and 60th picks instead of the 30th and 30th picks. The Minnesota Timberwolves, who had the NBA's worst record (17-65), would have their lottery pick and the 16th pick, but would no longer have the first pick of the second round - No. 31 overall.
  • Under another proposal, the teams with the eight worst records would get an additional first round pick, beginning with selection No. 22, and the teams with the eight best records would have no first-round picks but would select at the top of the second round (picks 31 through 38), then also would get the final eight picks of the second round.

I believe I'm siding with the second proposal if those are the only two options, but I'm not sure the draft needs that much of an overhaul as it is -- though it would seem to help the D-League regardless, with or without changes to the D-League in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

As the Oklahoma City Thunder have done so well, as I wrote about awhile back, the majority of teams would probably send their third round picks to the D-League while maintaining the player's rights in the future. It's been said that a change would need to be made to make that a possibility, but the Thunder have shown that where there's a will, there's a way.

NBA teams have slowly but surely been buying into the D-League -- nine teams will control at least the basketball operations of their Development League affiliates this coming season -- in order to get more out of it. If they're able to stash a player they think might eventually be productive in the minor leagues, it makes sense that the NBA will take advantage of it (as the Thunder have already done with their second round picks).

The difficult part will be convincing the players drafted in the third round to take what might be a substantial pay cut in order to play in the D-League. That onus is lessened, however, if the team is able to convince the player that playing in its system with its coaches will put him a couple steps closer to his NBA dream -- especially considering that the player would likely earn a call-up if injuries occur, something that couldn't happen if the player was in Latvia.

Overall, I don't know how much a third round would affect the D-League considering it'll only be beneficial to those NBA teams that are ready to take advantage of it. Fortunately, it seems more teams are seeing that the advantages can be great considering the relatively low cost of development in the D-League.

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How does it dilute the talent pool?

The vast majority of roster spots will still be held by current NBA players and draft picks from the first 2 rounds. This just gives fringe guys more of a chance to prove whether they deserve to be there or not.

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 7, 2025 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't those the same guys who are getting summer league and camp invites anyway?

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by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some

But a decent amount also go to Europe right away.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

As do plenty of second-roudn picks.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Six played overseas last year

And that’s counting two of the Euros that started there. By contrast, 14 played in the D-League.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point (and the real change) here isn't the third round, it's the double-dipping for lotto teams the first time around.

Also, if you’re going to say things like “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” you might want to ask yourself whether it is or isn’t “broken.” The whole idea here is that competitive balance is a problem in the NBA. If we accept that, then “It’s broken.”

by feral on Sep 7, 2025 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, this doesn't necessarily make sense.

What about Chuck Hayes, Jose Calderon, Kelenna Azubuike, Bo Outlaw, Chuck Atkins, Bruce Bowen, Avery Johnson, Andres Nocioni, Udonis Haslem, Brad Miller, John Starks, or Ben Wallace? All of those guys were undrafted players that have made some solid contributions. How many more players like that are out there that would have made an NBA roster if they had some structure and some coaching? Are we likely to get a future HOFer from this group? No. Could we get a starter for a championship team? Yes.

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by DRose01 on Sep 13, 2025 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

And he doesn’t even need to be a starter for a championship team. Even if its a rotation player, it’s worth the addition of a third round provided nothing else is screwed up.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 13, 2025 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The different structure could result in some crazy upheaval as far as who the good and bad teams are. If a terrible, young team gets 2 first round picks in 2 straight years, and a good veteran team is stuck with bottom of the draft picks, it would be difficult for that veteran team to maintain success, unless the team were to be very active in free agency to replace who they lose and upgrade the roster.

Why not use the 3rd round exclusively for the D-League? Give each team a protected roster spot on their D-League affiliate for their 3rd round pick. I’m not going to takwe the time now to come up with an entire set of elaborate rules and regulations to see whether my suggestion is feasible or not, but I’m not sure I like the complete draft overhaul.

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 7, 2025 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think the overhaul is necessary

But I don’t see how, as Jeffrey alluded above, that the talent pool would be diluted at all.
This would only help, not hurt, all parties involved.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 7, 2025 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The idea of folding a new draft structure into an enhanced D-League affiliation makes sense in outline, for sure.

And yeah, the idea of two passes for bad teams up front…. It doesn’t feel right, period. We could cobble up an elaborate and Oh So Balanced mechanism to make that model ever so (or even somehow “ideally”) equitable and encourage whatever level of competitive balance we want, but that’s not going to feel fair to the average fan. It’ll feel jury rigged. It won’t pass the sniff test.

I’m mildly encouraged that we’re even having owners and players talk about competitive balance, though. This is a real issue that CBA talks should be centered on, and they’re talking about it! Woot!

Granted, I mean, there really should be some longer-term body bridging players and ownership that deals with “competitive balance” over time. They should have some voice at the table when it comes to rule changes; to things like Miami’s Superfriends free agency coup and whether it represents a true threat to league balance; to the playoff schedules and whether they encourage one type of team or another; and to revenue sharing, which the owners don’t want to have the players talk about. That ought to happen, and not just when contracts are up. But I like this. It’s…. constructive to consider.

by feral on Sep 7, 2025 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

How are they gonna stop the bolded?

They should have some voice at the table when it comes to rule changes; to things like Miami’s Superfriends free agency coup

All 3 of those guys left via free agency which was there and everybody else’s right to do when there contract is up. They also took pay cuts to play on the same team. If players are willing to take massive pay cuts to play on the same team in order to win a championship there isn’t anything the league can do

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by gunnin' gervin on Sep 11, 2025 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome g-squared.

Nice to have your input on the topic. How’s ROF been lately?

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 11, 2025 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

ROF has actually been pretty good. There is a lot of good conversations going on at the site. PTR has been pretty dead though. PTR is by far my favorite site out of all the SB Nation sites but ROF is catching up quickly due to how much chatter is being conducted during this offseason.

The people at ROF are showing how hungry they are for B-Ball constantly brainstorming how the Bobcats can get better

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by gunnin' gervin on Sep 12, 2025 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering how a guy named Gervin ended up at a Bobcats site...

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 12, 2025 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now this I can get behind.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this sounds crazy

But the draft isn’t exactly designed to be exciting. Also, the NBA has the least number of rounds in its draft of the major American sports.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 7, 2025 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They also have the fewest number of players on the team, so it makes sense.

But I agree, I’m all for another round. Heck, we’d probably get to see a lot of the college guys we all know get picked if the draft is extended. The fringe players that we all think are better than these no name foreign guys.

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 7, 2025 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn't it?

There is no affiliate minor-league system, and rosters are only 15 players.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

There’s no affiliate minor league system? What do you consider the D-League?

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a seperate league with VERY limited ability for NBA teams to use it as a development opportunity for their players.

This is different from both hockey and baseball, where every team controls one (if not more) minor-league team in its entirety.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the 6 NBA teams that control their D-League team in its entirety?

And three others that own the basketball operations.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

6/30 is...?

And either way, the majority of the players on those teams are not protected for their parent club. It’s difficult to invest in development when your efforts could be taken advantage of by another team.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But as I linked in the article, your Thunder have found a good way around that.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I've read about what they're doing.

But the NBA should really find a way to make it less convoluted for teams to hold on to the players they’ve identified as future assets and invested in.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

Until every team has NBA support to have an affiliate team, and a more in-depth system of minor-league player rights, it’s simply going to be cost- and effort-prohibitive for teams to be able to do things OKC has. In other words, the rich get richer.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It seems like if these ideas go through that the league is punishing teams with good front offices to level the competitive playing field.

Like you and Scott stated some teams are already seeing the value in the D- League teams and using them some what effectively. That is the mark of a smart or at least progressive thinking front office.

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by gunnin' gervin on Sep 11, 2025 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Instead of creating a 3rd round, how about changing the age requirements and starting a high school draft (held in late september) where the players were required to spend their first year in the D-league.

by BectonD on Sep 12, 2025 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everybody tell your friends.

Let’s keep this discussion going.

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 7, 2025 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree,

In the first proposal, if I were the 8th seed I would have a decision to make. If I make the playoffs, we’ll get swept, but hey we made the playoffs. If I tank a few games and drop to 9th, I get an extra first round pick. I would tank a few games to get the 15th and 30th picks, over the 31st and another pick which Im assuming would be 45th?

Again, like dave Ryan said it would make tanking a better option for fringe playoff teams, unless they are overly worried about losing fan base (I wouldnt care, because fans come right back when you start winning). Same goes with the 2nd proposal; if I had the 9th worst record with 5 games left, I would tank the remaining games to try to get the 7th or 8th pick.

Anyways, I do like the idea of a 3rd round, it’s just that it should be done in a smipler way, by either literally just adding it on with the same rules as it is now, or some other simple system.

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by BlackPack-fan on Sep 8, 2025 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Don’t think it needs to be as convoluted as it (seems to have been) proposed. Not sure a third round is that important if it screws up the rest of the draft.

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by Scott Schroeder on Sep 9, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a decision already being made.

The Bobcats doubled their payroll and traded away lots of future assets under Larry Brown for their shot at mediocrity and the chance to tell their fans “Hey, we’re in the playoffs!” We obviously see how that’s worked out for them.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

That “contender from the depths” idea is one of the reasons the NFL is so popular. With the exception of a few teams, every fanbase goes into each new year thinking they have a chance. Raptors fans don’t think that. Cavs fans don’t think that any more.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 9, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by gunnin' gervin on Sep 11, 2025 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

An interesting post from a related FanShot on Canis Hoopus:
If it were somehow tied into a deeper integration with the DLeague or NCAA I could see the sense in it. For example, spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a very promising high school player who can be drafted but cannot play until after his 1-2 years in college. Doesn’t baseball operate this way?


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 by Wile E Coyote on Sep 7, 2025 11:16 AM PDT upreplyactions

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 11, 2025 3:23 AM EDT reply actions  

a 3rd round would hurt players

In the current system undrafted players get the opportunity to select which team they sign with, I think the league should hold two separate drafts instead. A 2 round college draft (restricted to Jr and Sr) and a new 2 round High school/Supplemental draft (restricted to HS players and college Fr and Soph), which pays a lower salary and requires all the players to play in the DL their 1st year. If you select a player in the HS/ supplemental draft you loss a pick in the next college draft.

by BectonD on Sep 12, 2025 12:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

oops

I meant the team will “lose” a pick in the following college draft if that team selects a player in the prior years HS/Supplemental draft. The NBA could also add picks between the 1st and 2nd rounds for teams that lose players via free agency, but adding a 3rd round would not be fair to undrafted rookies.

by BectonD on Sep 12, 2025 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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