2009 NBA Lottery Day: Don't Worry, Be Happy
Well, lottery players, it's lottery day today (or night tonight, rather). NBA style. Before I get into it, check WTLC for an in-depth analysis of how the lottery works (I didn't read it as my eyes go cross-eyed when I read long posts, but from my understanding, he breaks it down very well.)
Plenty of my fellow SBNation bloggers are excited, much more than they should be at the fact that their team missed the playoffs. Even so, Sactown Royalty, Bullets Forever, Posting and Toasting, Welcome To Loud City and the leaders of the Suck Squad themselves, Golden State of Mind will all have their lottery threads open, and all will probably be more exciting than the comments here (at the very least, more depressing and easier for you to laugh at than my amazing sense of humor). Still, I invite you to hang out tonight and keep things exciting in the comments - especially all of you guys without a horse in this race. I hate being by myself.
I've been doing calculations for about 16 hours so far, and I've come to a conclusion: There are going to be, at a minimum, 11 teams unhappy with the lottery. This hurts my feelings, as I'm always looking at the upside of things. Therefore, this mornings post will be my bullets on why you shouldn't be mad when the freakin' Suns win the lottery.
- This draft isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Yes, yes, I know that you've probably heard that this is the weakest draft ever from some lazy NBA executive. It's not. It's not top heavy, sure, but it's not "Give me Griffin or give me death," either. This draft will be filled with solid role players. Lots of contributors that will come in and know their role. It's not a draft oozing with Ridiculous Upside, but it's not going to be impossible to draft a starting caliber player if your team ends up with the number six pick.
- Go back to 2005 and look at that draft if you want to look at the last weak draft as projected by the experts. That was supposed to be weak as well, but it produced Chris Paul and Deron Williams, two of the best point guards in the NBA right now. Marcin Gortat was the 27th pick of the second round, and the Polish Hammer's been a beast in the playoffs. Monta Ellis isn't a terrible player, and he was the 40th overall pick. Brandon Bass and Von Wafer were both second round picks as well, and they both played a big part on their teams this season. If scouts do their due dilligence, there are good players to be found if there are ood scouts scouting.
- This draft doesn't have the bust potential of other drafts. While there aren't many sexy picks that will happen on draft night, there won't be many "we drafted who!?" moments either. There are a lot of solid, NBA ready players in this draft that you should have heard of before draft night. None of these players are mystery players. Mysteries at the NBA level, yes, but teams will be drafting on what they see this season, rather than what they think a player can become. This can only be beneficial to the NBA in the long run.
- Love the one you're with. No amount of complaining is going to make you happy with where you're slotted. Heck, you're probably not even going to be with whomever the team selects - there's a reason your team is in the lottery, after all. Regardless, love the one you're with. It'll make you happy, and me a lot less sad when I troll your comments. It's a win-win situation.
- Don't worry, be happy. At least you're not a Celtics fan. Or a D-League blogger, for that matter. The draft, no matter who your team picks, brings hope. Look on the Bright Side (of the Sun).
- If nothing else, get drunk. Our friends over at HP, specifically The Corndogg, have invented a lottery drinking game. I haven't had a drink in awhile, but if I get bored tonight, this will happen.
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11 unhappy teams?
How do you get that? I would’ve said 12 or 13, depending on who ends up #1.
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 10:07 AM EDT
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Minimum.
If the Suns end up at 3 instead of 14, think they’ll be unhappy?
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:12 AM EDT
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Who do you take #3?
In this draft, don’t you have to be in the top 2 to be happy?
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 10:15 AM EDT
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Did you read the post?
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:18 AM EDT
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Yeah
but do you really want to take a(n overpaid) role-player with the #3 pick?
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 10:20 AM EDT
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The rumors they trade Nash
is that dependent on them landing Rubio or Jennings or someone? (The Suns that is)
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 10:21 AM EDT
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According to Phoenix Stan
They’re looking at best player available.
I think cutting Nash would be more to get out of the luxury tax than anything else. Maybe Stan can weight in on this..
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:30 AM EDT
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Come on guys
The Suns aren’t getting a top 3 pick and they are not “dumping” Nash.
I think Kerr would like to have moved in a more defensive direction but he’s given in and hired Gentry. You hire Gentry you keep Nash. Kerr recently called him the “face of the franchise” which means he’s the cash cow. He stays and likely will have a 2 or 3 yr extension signed before the season even starts (although that kind of makes him more trade-able).
The Big Question is Amare. I don’t think he will go anywhere but maybe, maybe, maybe a team like OKC would trade a top pick and something else to get him.
My best hope to move up is JRich. I don’t think this is possible, but maybe a team in the top 10 that is under the cap would trade their pick and cap space for Richardson. My best hope for that is Minnie since they need experienced wing scoring to go w/ Big Al.
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by Phoenix Stan on
May 19, 2025 11:08 AM EDT
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But Marc Stein said you are!
Also, I don’t mind JRich to the Twolves, but I’m not sure he’s worth that much, either.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 11:13 AM EDT
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Worth is a funny thing
…teams have a long history of determining a players worth based on what someone else paid him before (or how he was drafted).
JRich though is by far worth more then a 5-10 pick in this draft and on the right team. If you are already a young team and don’t want to spend 2 t o4 years developing yet another draft pick to become at best a rotation player then it makes sense.
If you’ve got a guy like Big Al and think you are ready to take a big step forward then JRich could be a big part of that and it shows your fans you trying to get better.
Minnie though is the only lottery team I can think of that needs this kind of wing player. Maybe Toronto but for some reason I don’t see that working as well.
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by Phoenix Stan on
May 19, 2025 11:38 AM EDT
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Come on Stan....ANYTHING IS POSIIIIBLLLEEEE!!!!!!!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
May 19, 2025 3:29 PM EDT
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Except Greg Monrie going 3
And Willie Warren, Al-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis and Cole Aldrich entering this draft.
Otherwise, I agree. :-)
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 3:35 PM EDT
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I hate ESPN now....
kill yourself Chad Ford.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 3:49 PM EDT
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rec'd
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 3:53 PM EDT
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You weren't supposed to look past
#1
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 7:48 PM EDT
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How many hundred attempts did this take?
Like Henry Abbott writes, about as likely as Shaq hitting 8 consecutive free throws
by Norsktroll on
May 19, 2025 4:34 PM EDT
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Or not "feuding" with some NBA random
every 6 months…just doesn’t happen.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:36 PM EDT
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jokes on you
Shaq did that a couple times this year
by Funky Flapsack on
May 19, 2025 5:23 PM EDT
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If he's going to put together a solid 10-year career
and fill a need? Yes. And it’s not like they’ll be grossly overpaid. The rookie contracts are set up pretty nicely.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:26 AM EDT
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People don’t read posts :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on
May 19, 2025 3:52 PM EDT
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Disappointing.
Iput so much blood, sweat and tears into each masterpiece I write on here. And have even recently stopped drinking while writing!
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:01 PM EDT
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I recently started drinking when I read Scott's posts
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:03 PM EDT
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They're better
I’ve recently started doing this too. I suggest everyone try it. Maybe we should even make a drinking game out of my posts. That way I have a reason for my 9:30 am binges.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:05 PM EDT
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Good Call....
It’d be like the NBA Draft drinking game, but with less optimism and positive outlook for the future.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:09 PM EDT
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2005 was a horrible draft
Our incompetent former Blazers President and his GM traded down 3 spots because we had Bassy Telfair (yeah, that one) to take Martell Webster and Jarrett Jack instead of CP3 (as his assistant Pritchard wanted) or D-Will. I hate that draft. Did I mention I hate that draft?
by Norsktroll on
May 19, 2025 10:11 AM EDT
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A lot of teams made bad picks
But there was talent to be had if the scouts did their job.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:13 AM EDT
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As for bust potential: I think this draft has quite a lot
Heck, even Griffin and Rubio could turn out quite worse than most people expect. I don’t think it, but it could happen.
Thabeet could be a player with no offense forever. Harden gets compared to Roy but could be Foye too. Jennings could turn out to be the best PG in the draft - or not. DeRozan could be the next Gerald Green. Curry could be an undersized chucker. Flynn one of the most blocked point guards. Blair could get fat and be the next Sean May or Mike Sweetney. Mullens could stink. Hansbrough is the next Darius Songaila.
Quite a lot of question marks.
by Norsktroll on
May 19, 2025 10:15 AM EDT
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What are you projecting these guys to be?
If you’re saying all of these players are going to turn out best case, they’re not.
Griffin will never be Malone. I don’t like him near as much as most. But his floor isn’t terribly low.
Rubio could be a bust, but it’s really unlikely.
Thabeet’s already a player with no offense. Would a 7’3" tremendous shot blocker be terrible?
Is Foye terrible? He’s not Roy, but not many players are.
Curry’s already an undersized chucker.
Nobody I’ve seen projecting Mullens to develop much.
Thing is, don’t draft potential and this draft won’t be filled with busts. Teams should know what they’re getting if they’ve done any scouting at all. There aren’t going to be 10 10x all-stars. But I think all of these guys will fill the role NBA teams are hoping for as long as they draft realistically.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 10:24 AM EDT
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lol
could.
could.
could.
could.
could.
could.
could.
could.
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Not very high on Hansborough, are you?
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 10:29 AM EDT
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Nope
Then again I thought Thabeet was the next Sam Dalembert at best, and in the meantime I think he should be much better than that. He seems to truly care about developing his game and hasn’t even started to do proper weight training yet.
by Norsktroll on
May 19, 2025 10:34 AM EDT
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Thabeet > Dalembert
Thabeet will definitely be better than Dalembert. I think Thabeet could become a stud. He’s such a presence on the defensive end
by stneff70 on
May 19, 2025 10:56 AM EDT
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I agree...
I worry a little bit about his motor, but his length will definitely be a factor at the next level.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 10:58 AM EDT
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As a sixer fan
I’ve watched Dalembert play a million times. And as a college basketball fan, I’ve seen Thabeet develop his game. There’s no question to me who is the better player RIGHT NOW, and it’s Thabeet. He stays inside his game, where as Dalembert plays like an ADD kid at Kids R Us. Hasheem will be a very good center for a while. A few all-star appearances sprinkled in there, but nothing world-changing. Thabeet has learned so much in 3 years, it’s hard to see him stopping his development curve.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 3:59 PM EDT
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That's a good point...
considering he was fairly new to the game when he came to UConn. I think he will definitely be solid.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:02 PM EDT
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"It could happen."
Umm… “no shit, sherlock?”
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by tyger1147 on
May 19, 2025 2:18 PM EDT
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I love this post....
I agree completely Scott. And I like that you threw in a CS&N reference, I thought you only liked early-90’s rap.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 10:52 AM EDT
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I'm all over the board
Was doing some easy-listening when I wrote this one. Tomorrow I’ll make sure and hook you up with some Garth Brooks.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 11:42 AM EDT
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Really?
Garth Brooks? Really? You can’t possibly just break out some Allman Bros instead? They’re like country, without the suck.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 12:14 PM EDT
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I think Chase Budinger and DeJuan Blair sort of epitomize this draft.
They both do a lot of non-sexxxy things well, but only one thing really well (shooting for Budinger) and great (rebounding for Blair). Because of their limitations in athleticism and/or size and other skills, they don’t have high potential.
However, it’s pretty hard for me to imagine that they’ll be worse than 7th or 8th man on a very good team due to their specific skills and projecting those to the NBA. With only a few surprises in development, they can be legitimate starters. The chance they become stars, however, is pretty low.
Low ceiling but somewhat high floor. Like you said about the draft in general, I think that’s how these guys are (among many others, of course).
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May 19, 2025 2:24 PM EDT
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Well put....
though I still think BJ Mullins will go too high on “potential” and be next Robert Swift. But I agree about this draft in general.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 2:26 PM EDT
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I hate BJ Mullens
And all former/current/present Ohio State centers.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 4:03 PM EDT
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All former?
Herb Williams? Brad Sellers? Jerry Lucas!?
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:08 PM EDT
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I think he was aiming at the past 4-5 years....
Although Kosta seems promising.
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The Koof!
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 7:49 PM EDT
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Yes
And their grandchildren if they go to OSU and start at center for a year and bolt for the NBA too early.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 4:10 PM EDT
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Do you think Oden left too early?
Was his stock going to get higher? Gotta look out for the players too..
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:13 PM EDT
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Equal Opportunity
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I think.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:22 PM EDT
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For the money, no, he left when he should have
But for ability, yes. He played one year at BLOhio state (see what I did there?) without his right hand. It’s not like he was honing in his skills. He was dunking on a couple 4th graders without demonstrating much other game. If he stayed another year, maybe he doesn’t get injured and still drafted number 1 and has a chance to contribute right away.
I’ve always been an Oden hater. But its way too early to call him a bust. However, for a number one pick, I think he’s gonna be looked at as a role player, whereas Durant will be a perennial all-star. That being said, Portland still made the right pick because they needed a center, not another scoring G/F.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 5:33 PM EDT
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And that's what I like
Draft for need. TAFKAMB might hate the player, but he won’t hate the pick.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 6:54 PM EDT
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TAFKAMB knows whats up
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 20, 2025 1:03 AM EDT
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Third person references
are a hint that it’s getting late and the comments section is getting a little nuts.
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May 20, 2025 1:37 AM EDT
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Scott disagrees
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 20, 2025 3:03 AM EDT
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Chase Budinger is somewhere between Kyle Korver and Martell Webster. That's not a terribly high floor.
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May 19, 2025 2:32 PM EDT
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They'll both be in the league for awhile
It’s not terribly high, but at least you know what you’re getting. If you’re okay with drafting a player of that caliber, draft him. He won’t be terrible, he won’t be great. He should be able to find a niche.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 2:37 PM EDT
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Yep...
just know that the next D-Wade is not going to be in this draft. Unless Demar DeRozen gets bit by a radioactive spider during training camp.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 2:50 PM EDT
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Nah, Chase Budinger will be more like Dan Majerle or Brent Barry.
Unlike Kyle Korver and Martell Webster, Budinger possesses good handles and an insane amount of athleticism. Yet, Budinger may have neither the defense of “Thunder” Dan nor the careful playmaking abilities of “Bones” Barry, but I still think the Layne Staley look-alike will be a hybrid of those two guys.
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May 19, 2025 8:26 PM EDT
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Jaw-droppingly well put. Jaw is dropped. I think Chase can develop into a Rashard Lewis type, except without the versatility to play the 4. Blair confuses the hell out of me, but I can’t see him failing on the next level just because of his unconscious strength and rebounding ability. Jaw still dropped.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 4:03 PM EDT
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Catching flies....
I think this will prove to be a “better than originally thought” draft when all is said and done.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:08 PM EDT
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Are you saying
This draft has “ridiculous upside”? Not necessarily the players, but the draft itself?
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:13 PM EDT
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Yes indeed....
this draft right now has a 42" vertical, 7’4" wingspan, can dunk form the foul line, but can’t shoot outside of 12 feet and averaged 5 TOs in college.
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May 19, 2025 4:19 PM EDT
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Hmmm
I’m not that excited about the wingspan and what kind of form is his foul line dunk? Other than that, I’m excited.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:23 PM EDT
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And on that note
I’d prefer it to be a her. Now that would be ridiculous upside.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:33 PM EDT
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She will actaully be drafted in 2034
Sheldon Williams and Candace Parker’s daughter, who goes by Juliana Candace-Parker-Williams. That’s right, triple last name.
by IcemanCometh on
May 19, 2025 4:38 PM EDT
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I like the triple last name
Has it been done before?
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:41 PM EDT
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Surely....
plus you want people to know your mom is Candace Parker and Tony Parker.
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May 19, 2025 5:05 PM EDT
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I think she should go by Jessie Shuttlesworth
Bringin it back
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 5:35 PM EDT
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Who is her agent? Did Coach K already try to recruit her?
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May 19, 2025 5:42 PM EDT
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She already has 15 scholly offers
14 from Coach Calipari…..
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May 19, 2025 5:46 PM EDT
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Her agent
Think it’d be wise to have her sign an agent now? Just let her play AAU games and such? Will she really need high school athletics?
Also, my money is on Sonny Vaccaro. If not, I’ll throw my hat in.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 6:56 PM EDT
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Ricky Rubio likes music.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 7:55 PM EDT
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And the ocean. Eliminate half the teams that could land him.
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May 19, 2025 8:06 PM EDT
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Haha
Don’t want an unhappy Ricky..
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 8:33 PM EDT
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Bilas
has Thabeet over Rubio… Interesting.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 8:34 PM EDT
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Thabeet has a great motor and you can't teach height and shot blocking and intangibles and...
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May 19, 2025 8:35 PM EDT
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Gotta love Bilas
But does he really have intangibles?
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May 19, 2025 8:36 PM EDT
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Rated on a scale of 1-5 :)
As for Thabeet, I don’t know. He looked like a good kid in interviews, but you won’t sell a ton of tickets with him. Too timid. And the question “has basketball found him just because he is tall or has he found basketball” is a bit murky.
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Leaning toward
basketball found him… But he seems to have taken an interest in improving..
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Last time Larry Bird was happy?
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How awkard is this setup?
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Boring thru 5...
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Rigged
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Grizz #2
What happens to Mike Conley when they take Rubio?
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He's gone
But I’m not sold on Clippers going with Griffin…
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 8:58 PM EDT
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YES!
Memphis will trade us Conley or Rubio. Woot Woot!
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What do you give up for Rubio?
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by Scott Schroeder on
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Blake/Sergio, Outlaw, cash, any picks they want
For either one. For Rubio probably they would have to put in Bayless too.
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May 19, 2025 9:08 PM EDT
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I just hope they don't trade with the Clippers to switch places so Rubio goes to the Clippers and Griffin to Memphis
I don’t know if Wallace and Dunleavy are dumb enough to not do it or dumb enough to do it.
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But dumb enough
would be key..
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by Scott Schroeder on
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Wallace's IQ
is just about 79. He might qualify.
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Instead of the Los Angeles Clippers making a trade with the Memphis Grizzlies to swap ...
lottery picks, Mike Dunleavy, Sr. ought to grow a sac and drop a pair by choosing Ricky Rubio with the #1 selection in the ’09 NBA Draft.
Then again, maybe the Clippers could convince the Grizzlies to part with some assets — such as an unprotected 2010 first-round draft pick and, perhaps, a future first-round draft pick via the Los Angeles Lakers (top-6 protected from 2010 through 2013 and unprotected in 2014) — to swap picks. In that case, the Clippers would have a solid foundation to build toward its future.
Also, I’m of the opinion that the Clippers should move some of its overpriced commodities at all costs — even if it’s deals like Baron Davis to the Minnesota Timberwolves for the expiring contracts of Brian Cardinal and Mark Madsen, Chris Kaman to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the expiring contract of Earl Watson and partially guaranteed contract of Chucky Atkins (i.e., so long as Sam Presti smartly chooses James Harden rather than Hasheem Thabeet), et cetera — however, I doubt that Dunleavy, Jr. has the foresight to make those kind of cost-cutting, yet nevertheless shrewd transactions.
At any rate, though, I hope that for the sake of all Clippers fans here, there, and everywhere — including that nimrod Bill Simmons — Dunleavy, Sr. has his head screwed on straight during these upcoming weeks and quits making dumbass decisions regarding roster construction. I don’t have much faith, though. Yet, luckily for me, I’m not a Clippers fan, but rather a vagabond.
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I disagree on Harden
But agree on Rubio….
Good points, regardless.
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May 20, 2025 3:05 AM EDT
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Well, I'm kind of torn on Hasheem Thabeet and not entirely sold on James Harden ...
in a backcourt teamed with Russell Westbrook. While Harden and Westbrook would make a physically well-built duo and solid defensive pairing — as well as great on the glass for a couple of guards — the lack of a mid-range game between them coupled with their respective propensity to commit turnovers is a red flag. For that reason, I can see how Westbrook would likely be much better off paired with his college teammate, Darren Collison, who should still be available late in the first round.
On the topic of Hasheem Thabeet, I also see him as way closer to Dikembe Mutombo than Mouhamed Sene — who still haunts my nightmares on occasion — regardless, he’s got some massive flaws to his game. Yes, Thabeet can clog the lane defensively and provide weakside help by blocking shots; yet, there are undeniable fears that he’ll get manhandled by stronger low-post players one-on-one (e.g., Dwight Howard, Nene Hilario, et al.), as well as schooled by interior scorers with outstanding footwork (e.g., Pau Gasol, Carlos Boozer, et al.).
So, even though I believe that Thabeet would provide the Oklahoma City Thunder with a much-needed defensive anchor inside, I’m not sold on his overall game—especially on offense. My fear here isn’t just caused by Thabeet’s lack of scoring proficiency, raw fundamentals, or hands of stone; rather, it’s also due to his relatively so-so offensive rebounding totals for a 7’3" tall giant.
At Thabeet’s height, one would assume he’d totally rule at boxing out and gobbling up offensive rebounds — particularly since he’s got very few responsibilities to being with on that end of the court — on the contrary, though, he’s less proficient on the offensive glass than DeJuan Blair and Jordan Hill, as well as stiffs like John Bryant, undersized bangers like Jon Brockman, and one-dimensional athletic freaks like Ahmad Nivins.
Yet, in any event, it’ll surely be interesting to see how the team that’s formerly known as the Seattle SuperSonics handles things.
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I'm not sold on Harden either...
If you’re a tricky and smart player in college, but not quite fast or athletic enough for the NBA? Doesn’t that make you a homeless man’s version of Shane Battier, but 4 inches shorter and not nearly the baskletball IQ?
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I like Harden
He’s gonna fill up the stat sheet and make the right plays as a second option on a team. Only a few guys in this draft are capable of being number 1 options for their teams, and that’s probably Griffin and Evans, but the complementary pieces are there and Harden is one of the best.
Plus it’s been awhile since we’ve seen someone good with a mammoth beard. Reggie Evans? No.
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May 20, 2025 6:38 PM EDT
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Thabeet
What’s the common thread among Blair, Hill, Bryant, Brockman, and Nivins? The absence of another dominant rebounder lining up next to them. Jeff Adrien is a double double machine and took a lot of rebounds away from Thabeet in his time at UConn. That’s why the numbers seem to be lacking. But at the same time, you watch him play and you don’t see too many mistakes from a guy that recently picked up the game. I agree that he can get pushed around a bit but for a 7’3 monster, his footwork is solid.
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I'm not happy about the Clips...
If they take Rubio or Griffin it’ll be another 3-4 years before one of those kids sees the light of day. Can’t we just burn that franchise to the ground already?
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May 19, 2025 9:00 PM EDT
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Who do they take?
I’m puzzled right now…
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 9:02 PM EDT
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Austin Daye....
because they are the Clippers.
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May 19, 2025 9:09 PM EDT
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Cole Aldrich
they need someone tall. They’ll take him and keep him “over there” (in college) for a year.
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May 19, 2025 9:10 PM EDT
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That'd be awesome.
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They'll take Jeremy Tyler....
and stash him Europe. Again.
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May 19, 2025 9:15 PM EDT
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I heard a rumor
That they’re going to pick John Wall, thus keeping him in the news for another month! Can’t wait!
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May 19, 2025 9:17 PM EDT
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Whoever they take, someone else gets on the trading block
Reportedly they consider sending Bdizzle back to the Warriors for Maggette.
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I'm seriously considering Rubio at 1...
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May 19, 2025 9:11 PM EDT
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Me too
seems like a better fit for them.
I mean they only went through like 6 PGs last year (including Jason Hart!)
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by UtesFan89 on
May 19, 2025 9:12 PM EDT
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Building around Rubio and Gordon would make too much sense :-(
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My mock drafts are based on sensibility
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 9:19 PM EDT
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FAIL....
You think Wallace and Dumbleavy understand sense? No.
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I've never failed.
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Conspiracy theory
the NBA likes LA, so they give the Clips another shot with #1.
And they like NY, but the last time they tried that (Ewing), conspiracy theorists rose from as far away as Russia to call them out. So instead, they’re diluting the talent in the East (save last year… they need a “but what about this year” to try and shut up conspiracy theorists) by giving all the top picks to WC teams.
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It makes sense
But would Stern do that?
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Of course he would
It’s David Stern.
If he could, he’d sell his kids (if he has any) for a couple of NBA fans.
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May 19, 2025 9:16 PM EDT
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Basically you're describing
a conspiracy theory of randomness. “So look here’s what happens….one year Stern’s like we need some players in LA….then the next year he’s like, ‘Naw East Coast Dawg.’ But then the year after that he’s like, ‘Wait, I’m all about some small markets.’”
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See, he's intelligent
But he’s got a bigger plan than I, or even you, can imagine..
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Jaw dropping.
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As has been previously discussed here, it just seems practical for Mike Dunleavy, Sr. to select Spanish ...
sensation Ricky Rubio with the first pick and, in turn, offer Baron Davis back to the Golden State Warriors for Corey Maggette and filler (e.g., Brandan Wright).
That’s my mindset for a few reasons, too, since I think that the overrated Blake Griffin is limited as a prospect — for his best-case scenario is Carlos Boozer and his worst-case scenario is David Lee — while Rubio is a very marketable asset who may put a twinkle of $ into the eyes of the Clippers frugal owner, Donald Sterling, who’s known for being a greedy bastard. Likewise, Rubio would be much better served playing in a big-time market like Los Angeles instead of going to somewhere like Memphis—regardless of fellow Spaniard Marc Gasol being on the Grizzlies.
Besides, I can’t envision a reasonable scenario wherein the Clippers will be able to dump Zach Randolph — although I guess something like that black hole to the Chicago Bulls for Jerome James’ carcass and a return of Tim Thomas could theoretically be pulled off after the July moratorium, but John Paxson would likely rather get a banger though the draft (e.g., DeJuan Blair) and have insurance cover most of the injured “Big Snacks” salary next season — thus, all things considered, drafting Griffin would probably be a superfluous move.
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