Is Summer League Worth It?
I know that Summer League is still a few months away, but rather than putting up another post of bullets I thought I'd discuss the Summer Leagues, and specifically whether they have any value for D-League players. Summer League is mainly used by NBA teams to see what their newly-drafted rookies can do and how they stack up to players with a season or two of experience. And then, because rosters need to be filled out, free agents get signed to short contracts. A lot of the players are D-Leaguers or other minor league ballers who are trying to catch a break and make it onto an NBA roster.
But how often does that happen? As I've been writing player profiles, and reading those that Scott has written, a pattern seems to emerge. A player will join a Summer League team, not get much playing time, and either get cut or, in some cases, get a preseason contract where he'll also not get a lot of playing time, then get cut. So why bother playing? What do D-Leaguers get out of going to Summer League?
The problem, as I see it, is that Summer League games aren't real. I don't mean that in the metaphysical/philosophical, "how can we be sure if anything is real" sense, I mean that they just don't matter. Summer League teams are usually coached by assistants (except in some cases, as with first-time head man Vinny Del Negro last year), and the head coach typically watches from the stands or isn't there at all.
Teams run basic plays, as again, Summer League tends more towards being a diagnostic tool to gauge how much work that lottery pick will need. There has been some research done into whether the outcomes or individual statistics put up in the NBA preseason have any bearing on the regular season, and if I recall the results have been somewhat mixed, but lean towards "no, they don't." Well Summer League games matter even less.
This is not to say there haven't been success stories. Denver's Dahntay Jones is probably the most obvious example of this. As D-League President Dan Reed pointed out in his interview with Scott:
He played in our league last year with the Fort Wayne Mad Ants and didn't even get a 10-day, much less a contract for the rest of the season. Yet he caught a lot of NBA team's attention through his play for the Mad Ants, which led the Denver Nuggets to target him for their summer league team, which he parlayed into a starting role on the Nuggets, who are currently leading their division. Think he's upset he didn't have a 10-day or get signed for the remainder of the season? Probably not.
There are other examples, too. Anthony Tolliver is another guy who made an impression at Summer League and ended up playing in 19 games for the San Antonio Spurs.
More often than not, though, even if a "D-League guy" makes it past Summer League and plays his way into a preseason contract, NBA teams by that point have already mostly, if not completely, filled their roster with retreads, leaving anyone really working their ass off to get a shot with little chance of seeing a payoff.
I've mentioned it a few times here, but I follow the Washington Wizards. I don't even remember who was on their Summer League team last year, but for preseason they brought in DerMarr Johnson, Linton Johnson, and Taj McCullough. Now I'm not saying that any of those guys would have made a huge impact on the team this past season, but the real problem was that all three were competing with Juan Dixon for the 15th roster spot. Juan Dixon, who in addition to being local and a former Wizard himself, had signed a partially guaranteed contract. Over at Bullets Forever, everyone pretty much assumed that no matter how well either of the Johnsons played (McCullough was a relatively early cut), Dixon was likely to get the roster spot because of his contract.
I can't imagine that's an unusual situation. Other teams may have better salary cap situations, but they're just as likely to keep a guy who they have to pay anyway rather than a guy who's only there on a preseason contract. And even then, if a guy does make it past the preseason onto an NBA roster, he's likely the first one dropped in case of injury.
Witness the Cleveland Cavaliers last year (I really didn't mean to put that reference in there). Jawad Williams impressed them enough in the Summer League and preseason to work his way onto the team, but they had to waive Ronald Dupree, then later dropped Williams to make room for Trey Johnson.
I've strayed a little bit, but while there have been a few successes, I question the value of attending Summer League for most D-League players. The main advantage seems to be getting exposure, but it's not really a situation that always allows players to really show what they can do. If a guy plays solid defense, for example, more often than not teams will approach it as "here is how my new draftee needs to improve," rather than having found a guy who can contribute for them later on.
NBA teams seem to place a higher value on how a player performs during the D-League season and in "real game" situations. A Summer League invite rarely guarantees a spot on an NBA roster, certainly more rarely than just performing well in the D-League. To that end, is the Summer League really worth it?
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Worth what?
That’s a pretty compelling case that the payoff for playing in summer league is marginal at best. But it’s not clear what the downside is. Injury risk? Wasted time that could better be spent … where? When you ask “is it worth it,” it should be clear what the cost is. Because if the risk/cost were low enough, then even the smallish payoff would be worth it.
by todd. on
May 18, 2025 12:50 PM EDT
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I think it's high-risk, low-reward
I don’t really think there’s much to be gained from a D-League player attending Summer League, but they have a lot more to lose than a guy who was just drafted. If a rookie or first-year player gets hurt, their team suffers, but then they just get through the year and try again next year (hi, Greg Oden). He’s still on the team, though. If a D-League guy gets hurt, or performs poorly (assuming they’re given a change to play), then it’s unlikely they’ll be able to get a preseason deal, and have to either go play in Europe or get a late start on the D-League seaon, and then any advantage they may have had disappears.
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by Jon L on
May 18, 2025 4:14 PM EDT
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I think the smart D-League player/FA
will take note of which team he signs on with fopr the Summer League. Those three D-League guys fighting Juan Dixon for the 15h spot? Probably not good odds. But then in the case of DeMarcus Nelson and Robert Kurz last year with the Warriors, there were roster spots to be had and both guys contributed early in the season with that team, Robert Kurz lasting through the full season with the team. Granted D-Marc and Kurz were not D-Leaguers (yet) but if you think about it from the standpoint of making a living as a pro player, both those guys made a nice little chunk of money before they were finally cut.
Obviously the end goal is to stick with a team throughout the season, but in the case of DeMarcus, don’t you think he and his bank account were happy he spent a few months with a Warriors when his salary the rest of the year in the D-League was under 20G? I’d say so. A chance to make some nice money and to even play in even few real NBA games has got to be worth a couple weeks of summer vacation.
by IcemanCometh on
May 18, 2025 1:59 PM EDT
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D-Marc was a rookie
And teams tend to be okay with signing rookies. D-League vets, however, aren’t exactly a hot commodity.
If you can make your argument for a D-League vet without NBA experience, I applaud you.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 18, 2025 2:09 PM EDT
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Depends on the individual team situation
True, most teams use summer league to try out their rookies or players stached overseas together with some guys who have not a snowball’s chance in hell to make it in this year on their roster.
But Taj McCullough was on the Wizards summer league team last year and brought back for pre-season as you said.
Similar with my Blazers. That roster featured our rookies, an unsigned overseas draft pick a lot of players never heard of again. And the Vegas Summer League MVP Jerryd Bayless over guys like Kevin Love, so much for how the performance there immediately translates. But it also included bearded center Steven Hill, who was an instant fan favorite and impressed the Blazers enough to pay him to come to Portland and work out against Greg Oden over the summer during the final phase of his rehab. And he was brought back to pre-season and played there in games, but ultimately lost out to Shavlik Randolph. But OKC picked him up for some training and one game (where he recorded an unheard of PER of 88) before sending him to the D-League. So he was able to translate his play in summer league not into a fully guaranteed contract but into a number of nice paychecks.
Overall you are probably right that it’s not the direct way towards an NBA roster spot. But it’s another chance to showcase your talent.
by Norsktroll on
May 18, 2025 4:13 PM EDT
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It's another chance
But eventually the NBA has to step up.
If none of these guys are getting consistent looks at the NBA, why not go to Europe.
American basketball is going to be struggling soon.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 18, 2025 11:05 PM EDT
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It's basketball
Therefore, it’s worth it.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 18, 2025 9:32 PM EDT
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Not necessarily
Carlos Powell played in Korea for what was equal to a minimum NBA contract last season.
Summer League, as Jon proved, wouldn’t have guaranteed him that type of money. Skipping Summer League, however, did.
Simply put, if a player isn’t a rookie, he’s facing an uphill battle to the NBA. Powell played an entire season in the D-League, averaged 22.5 points, 6.4 boards and 4.8 assists.
Would Summer League have been worth it, knowing he didn’t get a call-up during the D-League season? Maybe. More worth it than a full season of NBA money? Maybe not.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 18, 2025 10:48 PM EDT
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I was referring to the fact that basketball is a good time, so any time when basketball is being played, it is worth it.
Not much of a scientific, statistic-based argument, but I’m sure I can wrangle up some fake stats if you’re interested.
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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on
May 19, 2025 3:47 PM EDT
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Haha
No, I’ll give you that. I was just reading too much into it.
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by Scott Schroeder on
May 19, 2025 4:03 PM EDT
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