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Breaking It Down - The Latest Reed and Write

Written by Jon L, published by me.  Enjoy -- Scott

I don't think we linked to it before, but I want to talk about D-League President Dan Reed's latest "Reed and Write," in which he lists his top 10 NBA playoff performers who used to play in the D-League. The contributions of former D-League players probably got more attention in the previous round, with Dahntay Jones and Chris Andersen both playing significant roles, for the Denver Nuggets, but both the Lakers and Magic (along with several other playoff teams) have some key contributors who saw D-League time.

Before I say what I found interesting about Reed's list, here it is without comments:

Rafer Alston, Shannon Brown, Chris Andersen, Aaron BrooksMarcin Gortat, Von Wafer, Jose BareaDahntay Jones, Will Bynum and Anthony Johnson.

Notice anything? Eight of those ten players are guards. Seeing that got me to thinking about whether guards and wing players have an easier time making the NBA from the D-League or prove to be bigger contributors once they get there. Here are some of the other significant playoff contributors who spent some time in the D-League: Jordan Farmar, Mikki Moore, Brandon Bass, Chuck Hayes, Jamario Moon, Daequan Cook, Louis Williams, C.J. Miles. (And there are a few arguments to be made about players included/excluded from Reed's list, most notably to me Chuck Hayes, who probably had a bigger impact on his team than Shannon Brown has had on his, but that's not really related to the discussion here). Again, there are a few big men but mostly guards and small forwards (which is what I consider Bass).

There are a few questions involved in this. First, are guards/wings more likely to make the NBA out of the D-League? Second, if they're not more likely, do they at least make a greater contribution to their teams than big men? And third, and more generally, do NBA teams assign more guards and wings to their D-League affiliates than big men? We'll take a deeper look at these issues after the jump.

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Taking the first question first (obviously), let's look at this past season's call-ups. It's not necessarily the best measure, since all of the players Reed mentioned haven't played in the D-League in at least a season and there have been players who go from the D-League to the NBA without being an official call-up (by making a team during Summer League/training camp, for instance; Hamed Haddadi also wasn't an official call-up, but looks to make some significant contributions in Memphis), but we'll do it to get a rough sense of the current data.

There were 20 different players who received "Gatorade Call-ups" this past season. For the sake of space I'm not going to name them all, but by position they breakdown to nine guards, four wing players (including Marcus Williams, who's essentially become a point guard but who will probably play point-forward), and seven big men (power forwards/centers). Of course, most of those players were sent back to the D-League, though of those who stuck and/or signed contracts that give them a shot at Summer League and training camp, there were more guards/wings (Marcus Williams, Dontell Jefferson, Shaun Livingston, DeMarcus Nelson, Jawad Williams, Trey Johnson) then there were big men (Pops Mensah-Bonsu the second time in Toronto, Chris Hunter, Saer Sene). The split was even more pronounced in the 2007-2008 season, when, by my count, 15 of the 18 players called up from the D-League were guards or wing players. The one player who stuck in the NBA from that season was guard CJ Watson, though there are a few others who were called up again this season and may have shots at making rosters. 

As for my second question, whether guards and wing players make greater contributions to their NBA teams than big men, let's go back to the list of players called up this past season. The only player who really made an immediate, significant contribution was Pops Mensah-Bonsu, with Toronto in his second NBA call-up. However, looking at the long-term outlook, there are many more guards and wings who were called up and signed NBA contracts, and who have a real shot on seeing NBA playing time next season. The list includes Dontell Jefferson, Marcus Williams, James White, Shaun Livingston, Trey Johnson and Quincy Douby, as well as players with a not-quite-as-good-but-still-possible shot like DeMarcus Williams, Malik Hairston, Jawad Williams. The list of big men who could possibly contribute in the NBA next year is pretty much down to Mensah-Bonsu, Chris Hunter and Courtney Sims (and Jermareo Davidston if we're being generous). (Somewhat separately, Pistons power forward Amir Johnson is considered a former D-Leaguer even though he really only spent a handful of games there as an assignee, but it may be worth noting that at one time it looked like he might become a force in the NBA, but he disappeared this season.)

As for whether teams are less likely to send a big man down to the D-League, I believe the data is somewhat mixed. Charlotte Bobcats coach Larry recently admitted that some of Alexis Ajinca's problems could have come from lack of playing time, and that sending him to the D-League would have been beneficial. The Washington Wizards have had raw big man Oleksiy Pecherov on their roster for a few seasons now, and he hasn't really shown any development. Earlier this season an article was written quoting a team official as saying that Pecherov probably should've gotten some D-League time, but because of the team's injury situation, the coaches were afraid that sending players to Dakota would mean they wouldn't have enough guys to run practice. However, Memphis kept Javaris Crittenton on their NBA bench without giving him any playing time while they tried to decide between Mike Conley Jr. and Kyle Lowry, when sending him to the D-League certainly would've been a good idea. There's also the case of Utah, for whom two of the three players they assigned to the D-League this past season were centers.

Since I've asked questions, I should probably come up with answers. It seems pretty clear that NBA teams are more accepting (for lack of a better term) of guards and small forwards who come from the D-League than they are of big men. If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to the gradual shift over the last several seasons towards a more guard- or perimeter-oriented NBA, in several areas. As the point guard position increases in importance, teams will spend more time looking for an effective backup or even starter. As more teams come to embrace three pointers as an efficient shot, they'll need more three-point shooters. And as more teams use a perimeter player as the focal point of their offense, their opponents will need to find more wing defenders to try and shut them down.

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One reason might be

the value of big man talent in the NBA, because of it’s rarity. If you look at this years draft, there only a few big men of note in a sea of talented guards and swingmen. When a team drafts a young center, most of them probably won’t be trusted to play a big role right away but they probably get stuffed on the bench because of depth issues at that position. Only the guys who are incredibly raw or on a team with incumbent big guys get a chance to play in the D. Otherwise, teams probably value the injury insurance a large body provides over the development of that player. Probably why guys like Koufos, Fesenko, and Samb got called up but never did much on their NBA teams.

Too many teams have sucky big men running practice and riding their benches, which is why talented guys like Josh Davis don’t get a fair shot of getting called up.

by runningdonut on Jun 7, 2025 6:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My thoughts too

Bigs being more rare, any with a semblance of NBA talent are keep on the rosters. See Swift, Robert and Collins, either.

Bigs often get bigger contracts and therefor stick around longer. guards and wings (except for PGs) are much more replaceable on an NBA roster.

I am no Darwinist, but I suspect the laws of nature and gravity are at play here as well

by Phoenix Stan on Jun 8, 2025 12:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the same time, though

How long did it take Swift to develop into something serviceable? Is he even considered serviceable at this point? Wouldn’t sending him down to the D-League for development have maybe given Seattle a more immediate return? I’d think that if you have a player you consider to be more valuable as a basketball/financial commodity, you’d try to do everything you could to maximize that.

Maybe this is another part to more NBA teams needing to figure out that sending players to the Development League will help them, you know, develop.

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by Jon L on Jun 8, 2025 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I totally agree

I was pushing for Robin Lopez to spend some quality time in Iowa all winter long.

I just think that teams treat their bigs differently b/c they are so much less replaceable then wings. The 2 and 3 are the most expendable positions on an NBA roster so it is easier for teams to carry less depth at those positions and therefore (perhaps) easier to call them up.

Or maybe the better bigs are more in demand in Europe?

by Phoenix Stan on Jun 8, 2025 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moreover

I alluded to this a little bit at the end, but I think it’s becoming clearer that guards are starting to run the league, so I wonder if that means NBA teams will hoard them now and use the D-League for big men.

It also could be a function of the style of play a lot of players/teams work with. There’s a lot more driving into the lane and drawing contact, so I guess teams will need those extra fouls up front.

Now writing for Ridiculous Upside, now with more draft coverage.

by Jon L on Jun 8, 2025 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Change in style

I think favors thinner, more mobile bigs over the oafs of old needed to bang w/ Shaq. Shaq single-handedly provided jobs for the likes of Greg Ostertag and other massives

These days guys like Sims are key. Mobile. Blocks. Rebounds. Shoots.

I am still baffled that the Suns went w/ Stomile Swift over Sims to close out the season. Baffled and befuddled.

by Phoenix Stan on Jun 8, 2025 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watch it Jon L..... (Scott Schroeder)

Dan Reed is the hand of God in the D-league….and this reads like you don’t like his Reed and Write entry. Watch it hotshot, D-Reed knows where you live (mom’s basement), oh he knows where you live.

by IcemanCometh on Jun 7, 2025 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't read it negatively

Nor did I write it. I may have titled it badly, but as Jon L said in his email - I also don’t have a snappy title for it, unfortunately.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 7, 2025 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, no negativity intended

It just occurred to me that very few of the D-League guys who have success in the NBA are big men.

Now writing for Ridiculous Upside, now with more draft coverage.

by Jon L on Jun 7, 2025 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D-Reed doesn't care what you think

See, me and Jon, we write great things. Well, mostly Jon, and I break news about Dennis Rodman coaching 2 games in the EBA. But still - You talk about Patty Mills and are mean to crabs.
And also, I always refer to him as Mr. President Daniel Q. Reed - much more respectful.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 7, 2025 11:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His middle initial is Q?

Tight. I happen to think my Jam dancers retrospective was a work of art.

by IcemanCometh on Jun 8, 2025 12:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs


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