Jeremy Tyler, The 2011 NBA Draft And Highlights From Japan
Jeremy Tyler is probably the biggest enigma in the 2011 NBA Draft. Let's try to change that this morning.
For those unaware, the 19-year-old forward left high school after his junior season, played an abysmal season in Israel, a better season in Japan's second division this past year and then wowed the NBA scouts that hadn't seen him in two years at the NBA Combine.
Now, after originally being projected in 2011 NBA mock drafts as a potential top-five pick and then falling out of the Draft completely after his disaster of a year in Israel, Tyler seems to be the sexy "project pick" fans are clamoring for their teams to take a chance on late in the first round.
Tyler has the measurables -- his NBA Draft Combine measurements showed him to be a solid 6-foot-10½ and 262 pounds to go with a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-foot-2½ standing reach and an outstanding 12-foot vertical reach (meaning if he gets a running start, he can block a shot that's already 12 feet in the air) -- but it takes more than an NBA body to be worthy of a first round pick.
There are still skeletons in the closet stemming from his season in Israel and because of that, Tyler better have some NBA moves and a bit of Ridiculous Upside to go along with them.
Tyler spent this past season playing for the Tokyo Apache in Japan's second division alongside former NBA lottery pick Robert Swift while being coached by Bob Hill, the former head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics, San Antonio Spurs and Indiana Pacers (as well as Blake Griffin's personal trainer leading up the 2009 NBA Draft).
In Japan, Tyler averaged a respectable 9.9 points and 6.4 rebounds in just over 15 minutes per contest over the course of 33 games while dealing with foul trouble and free-throw deficiencies (49-of-108 on the season). Looking at those numbers, which is about all most NBA decision makers can do as only four of Tyler's games are on Synergy and it's highly unlikely many scouts make their way to Tokyo this season, it would seem that Tyler probably doesn't deserve the hype he's currently getting.
Andrew Lowman of Asia Basketball Update, the only person on the internet who followed Tyler this past season (to my knowledge) and therefore my go-to expert on this subject, believes that Tyler was more impressive than those numbers indicate. Lowman notes that over the course of Tyler's last 13 games -- when the team's other big man import, former D-Leaguer Kendall Dartez, left the team -- he averaged 30.4 points and 17.0 rebounds per 40 minutes (while playing just under 17 minutes per game).
"Watching the games, it is clear that Tyler thrived as Hill played him more at the 4 spot alongside Robert Swift at the 5," Lowman wrote of this drastic upturn in production. "Tyler showed his versatility away from the basket, including a drastically improved outside shot. Tyler's turnovers also dropped during this part of the season as he spent less time in the post getting double-teamed."
All of that said, and after watching as much Tyler footage from this past season as has been made available to me (89 possessions over four games on Synergy and all of Lowman's uploads on Youtube), I'm still not sure he's worth a first round pick.
Tyler has shown that he has rudimentary back-to-the-basket moves, a decent 18-foot jumper and the size and athleticism to be a serviceable NBA player from the outset while also seeming to be quite a bit more mature than he's been given credit for in the past. As a bonus, his being coached by Hill should have given him an understanding of the NBA's style of play.
Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to know how to use his size and strength to his advantage, didn't produce on the defensive end and isn't the most disciplined player on the floor. Tyler will be 20 by the time the draft rolls around, making him older than fellow big man prospects Enes Kanter, Bismack Biyombo, Tobias Harris, Lucas Nogueira. All of those guys, aside from Harris, have prior professional experience in similar, if not better, leagues and should be selected before Tyler is off the board.
This isn't all to say he won't be selected in the first round (Daniel Orton was a first round pick last year), I just don't think he's shown enough thus far for an NBA team to hand him a guaranteed contract unless he's able to show he's still improving when working out for NBA teams individually.
Since everyone's gone through and read the 700 words above -- or scrolled to the bottom to get to the good stuff -- here it is:
(Tyler's interview from the NBA Combine courtesy of Draft Express)
(Videos featuring Tyler from the NBA Draft Combine courtesy of raptorstuff on Youtube)
(Tyler's best game -- 24 points, 11 boards -- and last before the earthquake ended his season)
(Tyler scored 12 points and added 10 boards in 17 minutes off the bench this game)
(Highlights from Tyler's junior year of high school courtesy of Ball Is Life)
For more of Tyler's Japanese game footage, be sure to check out Asia Basketball Update's page dedicated to the NBA Draft prospect.
Further suggested recent reading related to Tyler includes N.B.A. Prospect Gets 2nd Chance in Japan via the New York Times and Tyler says he's grown from journey via Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears.
Now knowing everything you ever needed to know about Tyler, where should he be selected?
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Tyler is somewhat intriguing, but not worthy of a 1st round pick.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2025 4:56 PM EDT
by Sparhawk on May 31, 2025 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Scott, any word on Reggie Jackson. Is an injury keeping him from personal workouts? I just haven’t heard anything about him in awhile. I’d love for my Pacers to take him at 15, but I’d like some more info.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2025 4:56 PM EDT
by Sparhawk on May 31, 2025 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He missed the combine due to injury
And the Minnesota workout afterward. Let me see if I can track something down.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 31, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Great, thanks.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2025 4:56 PM EDT
by Sparhawk on May 31, 2025 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
There's rumors that the Celtics are guaranteeing they'd draft him
therefore, he’s faking the injury. Not sure how much truth there is to it though, but it’s definitely happened in the past.
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by GoldenNugget on May 31, 2025 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got a text into his agent
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by Scott Schroeder on May 31, 2025 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard the same rumors as well
but I don’t really see how he ’s going to fit, especially if the team is still intent on giving Avery Bradley time to develop after a tough-luck year. (which I hope they do)
by paolost on Jun 1, 2025 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2025 4:56 PM EDT
by Sparhawk on Jun 1, 2025 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering about Bradley.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler poses the same conundrum as Biyombo...
But for different reasons. They have both shown first round, star potential…Biyombo with his very limited amount of play and freakishly long wingspan, and Tyler with his all-around measurables and strong NBA-ready body.
The problem for Biyombo is only that he doesn’t much history to go on, and no combine appearance to help ease that concern. However, he has already shown remarkable talent in the Nike Hoops Summit which at least shows what he’s capable of
Tyler on the other hand is almost the opposite. He had a very unremarkable stint overseas when fresh out of high school after once being regarded as one of the top national prospects. However, he did show up to the combine looking stronger and leaner than ever, and put on an impressive showing in nearly every aspect reminding everyone why he was once so highly touted.
So the question for Tyler is whether or not to overlook his play overseas and chalk it up to immaturity, or use that as an indication of potential issues to come.
My opinion is that he has all the tools to be an NBA star, it’s only a question of will he land with the right team who can help him maximize that talent, refine his skills, and learn to handle himself like a professional. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see him go in the mid to late first round with a team willing to take that gamble.
by 7footer on May 31, 2025 2:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Biyombo played in the ACB
And decent minutes.
Of course you take Tyler if you pick after 20, and 100% at 5. What do you have to lose? There aren’t many American, College attended stars after 15 - they are almost always pot shots (Arenas is the major exception). Every star after that was either international or a high schooler.
Big risks == big rewards, and when the draft is as dodgy as this, with maybe, even the college based players having question marks (Jenkins and Brooks are two great examples), a guy like Tyler isn’t a massive risk.
by MMotherwell on Jun 1, 2025 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you...
Especially in this year’s draft, there just aren’t that many players that knock your socks off, especially after the top ten or so prospects. I almost picked Tyler to go late in the lottery given that he is one of the few big men with the chance of being a star at the next level, and you know how the draft stock of bigs rises like crazy as we get closer to the draft…But still, I think he’ll likely be picked somewhere in the mid first round.
by 7footer on Jun 1, 2025 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Man, I'd definitely want him on the Celtics.
The Celtics are terribly old and unathletic, and they basically have no one at the 5 position. Jeremy Tyler could be that project that might work out for the C’s at #25. With all the personality issues, I think having him in a vet locker room with the likes of KG can only help him get better.
by paolost on May 31, 2025 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
Hmm...
That’s an interesting destination.
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Celtic land this off-season
is just all about getting anyone that is big, athletic, and has legit height. (not like Glen Davis)
Also, I don’t want this kid starting in teams without the big veteran in the locker room, because I don’t want him looking like Andray Blatche. A headcase in a team without that presence is just not getting the most from his ridiculous upside.
by paolost on Jun 1, 2025 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
just not getting the most from his ridiculous upside.
This senence is definitely rec-worthy.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ridiculous
I’d take Tyler before any of the Euros slated to go in the lottery, sans Kanter and maybe Biyombo. The thing people simply seem to not be understanding with this kid is that his talent — from being ranked a top five prospect before he departed — didn’t just disappear!!! He was young, naive and entirely ill-prepared when he set out for Israel, and his play suffered because of it, but his talent didn’t just vanish. I’ve seen a lot of growth from Tyler, and watching his interview, he seems like he’s truly been transformed due to his overseas ventures. I have him ranked No. 2 on the Nuggets Big Board over at my blog only behind Faried, but honestly, even if Faried was there I’d consider taking Tyler over him. You just don’t walk across the type of skill set and athleticism Tyler has every day. He’s gonna be a steal in this draft and the exact same situation as Jennings had a few years back.
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by GoldenNugget on May 31, 2025 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
Oh yea, and great article too Scott
Tyler is one of the most interesting prospects in the draft, so it’s nice to see him getting the coverage he deserves.
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by GoldenNugget on May 31, 2025 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Where else other than RU are you going to get the entire story of Jeremy Tyler chronicled over the course of 4 or 5 artciles?
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
*articles
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, good save on the typo.
And I feel like that’s the purpose of RU — focusing on the guys that not enough people know about.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 31, 2025 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
BTW, did you get the e-mail I sent you?
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by Omaha Sun on May 31, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I mean, he definitely showed athleticism in high school, but I don’t know what his skill level actually is considering that he’s been bigger than everyone he’s ever matched up with (part of the reason he left high school early).
I’m not saying he doesn’t have talent, but I think you might be overrating the amount of talent — and I’ve followed him pretty closely for the past three seasons and watched every second of professional gametape available.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 31, 2025 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I trust you a hell of a lot more than I trust myself
But, here’s my deal: I’m not a big Euro guy. Valaciunas, Motiejunas, Vesely… haven’t we seen this before? Most likely, none of them will amount to anything more than a descent role player, so why go with a role player when you could take a chance on a guy who potentially could be much more than that, maybe even an All-Star? People drool over Vesely’s athleticism, but really, the NBA is overpopulated with athleticism, so that’s just not gonna cut it. You have to be able to do something else. Conversely in Tyler you have a guy, who is not only more athletic than Vesely (though I guess that’s debatable in some people’s eyes), but more skilled and much bigger as well. Again, I see this as Brandon Jennings 2.0. People forget how much Jennings struggled too when he went overseas. For me, looking at those numbers per 40 minutes in Japan when Tyler averaged 30 and 17 and even just the interview from DX tells it all. The kid matured tremendously, and that was the only step he needed to take. I don’t know, this is largely a matter of personal opinion, as the Draft always is, but me, I want my franchise to take it’s chances with guys who have high ceilings, as I think that’s what drafting in the first round is all about.
What are you’re personal opinions of him Scott? Where should he go? Where do you see his ceiling, and do you think he could be an All-Star one day? Like I said, I trust you more than I do myself. I’m just giving my opinion, cuz that’s what I’m good at.
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by GoldenNugget on May 31, 2025 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's the beauty of risking a project in the lower first-round.
you get a guy who can potentially be this and that, and if he doesn’t pan out, well he’s a #25 pick, and how many #25s become all-stars anyway?
by paolost on Jun 1, 2025 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially when he would be a 2nd-rounder next year.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, no need to trust me more
But I would say if he’s going to go in the first round — and I think he will, even if I don’t know if it’s necessarily deserved — he needs to go to a team with veteran bigs, a coaching staff and some sort of commitment to development. The Spurs (29), Mavs (26), Celtics (25) and Rockets (23) all fit those requirements. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Thunder drafted him and stashed him in the D-League, a la Latavious Williams this season.
What’s his ceiling? I don’t know if anyone can really know his ceiling at this point aside from Bob Hill. If he gets everything together upstairs, continues to develop an 18-footer and adds more to his post game, he can be a very good player. Unfortunately, It’s impossible to know what he contributes on defense against like athletes and that leaves a pretty big question mark.
Could he be an All-Star someday? Sure. Will it be before he turns 25? I wouldn’t bet on it. Look at the current All-Star big men in the league and Tyler’s not close to them. If he gets in the right system, it’s possible, but I wouldn’t bet on it happening soon. Could he far exceed his draft position if he’s picked later in the first round? Definitely.
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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 1, 2025 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
How long are SAS and OKC going to keep drafting big guys until they actually find someone who can contribute? At least the Spurs are finding rotation players. B.J. Mullens? Cole Aldrich?
I don’t think DAL would go that direction unless they are planning on shipping out Haywood.
As said above, BOS could work really well. HOU is another spot that could be a great fit.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Waaaaay too early to say Aldrich can't contribute
And Mullens is only 22.
As for the Spurs, Ryan Richards, Jack McClinton, Nando de Colo and James Gist were all picked in the last three years for them.
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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 1, 2025 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it's early,
but I was never a fan of Aldrich.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How does Kanter get a pass on similar terms?
Has anyone seen him play? But because he spent a year in Kentucky’s practice, he gets a pass over other European pros?
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 1, 2025 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I give Kanter a pass because I've seen him make NBA caliber moves on the court
Dude tore it up at the Summit, even broke the world team record for most point previously held by Dirk. Look, I don’t care what your story is, where you came from, etc., there have been a lot of great athletes to attend that tournament, and for Kanter to go out and put up the kind of numbers he did against dudes like Barnes, Sullinger, Irving, Knight, that’s just flat out impressive. He’s got the body, the frame, the size to succeed at the next level and he showed he has the skills. The year off worries me, but I still trust a guy who’s proven he can play against the USA’s top talent way more than I do a few guys who show flashes of potential over in Europe.
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by GoldenNugget on Jun 1, 2025 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Schroeder is good at writing articles.
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by Aisander D on May 31, 2025 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
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by Scott Schroeder on May 31, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
very interesting read
i think it depends on how he does in the workouts. i can see him go as high as # 21 (Portland’s pick) but also as low as late 2nd round. as of now i think he will get picked early in the second round.
it’s hard enough to predict how a college’s player’s game translates to the pros, and i think it’s even harder to predict for players from oversea.
by Dubbel on Jun 1, 2025 3:05 AM EDT reply actions
Huge risk for the 1st round
but that could be said for about 70% of the draft picks. Miami has the 1st pick of the second round and that is actually the best place for him. He would be the 4th or 5th option, he could learn from the older centers they have, and he would be on a winning team. I am both intrigued and terrified if he lands on the Heat.
Great read BTW.
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by L Magico on Jun 1, 2025 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
Speaking of the Heat,
I think I asked you, Scott, this question on an older post but you must have already moved on. What do you think of Dexter Pittman? Could he develop into the force MIA needs in the middle, or is his ceiling just a big body?
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 1, 2025 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

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