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Playoff Preview: #4 Austin vs. #5 Idaho

The battle of second-place teams - Austin finished second in the Southwest Division, and Idaho finished a game behind Utah in the West.  This will also likely be the best coaching matchup of the playoffs - NBDL Coach of the Year Quin Snyder vs. RU's pick Bryan Gates.  The Stampede won both of the regular season meetings between these two teams, but I'm not putting much stock into those outcomes as Anthony Tolliver, Blake Ahearn, Andre Brown and Jermareo Davidson all started in one or both of those games.

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Austin

The possible starters:

Malik Hairston has played like he's on a mission, trying to prove the Spurs wrong for essentially choosing Marcus Williams over him. Over the last two games of the season against Rio Grande Valley, Hairston scored 83 points on 56 shots along with 10 rebounds, eight assists, four steals and four blocks.

Dwayne Jones is one of the best defensive centers in the game, and rebounds like a fiend.  He doesn't have a lot of post moves (and the ones he does have aren't great), and if the opposing center can guard him without fouling he'll struggle, but Jones uses his rebounding ability to get a lot of tip-ins, and he's showing improvement on his free throws.

Ryan Bright is Austin's designated energy guy.  He's nothing if not active, and gets a few steals each game just by reaching his hand in and poking the ball away.  He's also collected five blocks in his last two games.  Don't tell Scott I said this (whoops?), but if you squint hard enough Bright might be about four or five years away from being a shorter Josh Davis.

I've talked about Squeaky Johnson (LINK) and Stanley Burrell (LINK) before, and as shooters they're both maddeningly inconsistent; They can each shoot 1-9 on threes one night and 3-5 the next.  The positives they bring are aggressive on-ball defense (Burrell) and an amazingly low number of turnovers (Johnson).  They're also going to need Johnson to step up his distribution game with Marcus Williams gone, otherwise guys are just standing around watching whomever has the ball.  Not only is that a bad offensive strategy generally, but it also slows the Toros down when they rely partly on a fast pace to overwhelm opponents.  If my calculations are correct, the Toros average 100.6 possessions per game.  By way of comparison, the Golden State Warriors lead the NBA at 98.1 possessions per game.

The bench:

I don't know much about Fred Gibson, the 27 year old guard they picked up for the last two regular season games, but he also played 30 games for Albuquerque this year, and didn't really seem to do much.  His best game this season was his first, when he scored 13 points on 9 shots and had seven rebounds against Colorado.  That was on November 28, though.  It's unclear whether Eric Dawson or Ezra Williams will be active for the Toros, and either one may also start, but they're both inefficient scorers.  Williams mostly relies on a three-point shot that comes and goes, while Dawson is an undersized center who spends a lot of time playing out of position at PF, where he throws up perimeter shots that he doesn't make.

Idaho

The possible starters:

Brent Petway is your NBDL Defensive Player of the Year, and I'm assuming he'll have the task of guarding Hairston.  Offensively Idaho doesn't rely on him for much, and while he's made over 50% of his field goals this season he also shot less than 32% from three-point range and 63.4% on free throws.  Still, given Austin's overall lack of offensive weapons beyond Hairston and Jones, if he can shut Hairston down, Idaho has a shot.

Lance Allred is a very solid big man who's seen some time in the NBA, and deserves to get back there soon.  He's a decent rebounder but probably not a good enough one to compete much with Dwayne Jones in that area, however he rarely turns the ball over and is a smart enough defender not to foul Jones too much, which as I mentioned above could provide a source of frustration for the Austin center.

Jason Ellis is an excellent rebounder, third in the league overall in rebounds per 48 minutes, but scoring-wise he topped out this season at 16 points on February 19.  He also averages right around one assist and one steal, and just under one block per game.  Again, though, not a lot of turnovers.

I assume Roberto Bergerson is there because he went to Boise State and because of his veteran presence (he's 33), because overall he's not a very efficient scorer.  He's been on fire from long range in April, though, making almost 71% of his threes.  It should go without saying (though it didn't, for some reason) that he needs to keep that up against the Toros.

Kevin Burleson is very inconsistent assists-wise.  His three April games of 12, 10 and 11 assists were sandwiched in between games where he had three and two assists in roughly the same amount of playing time.

The bench:

Lanny Smith and Jamaal Tatum are each probably steadier distributors on a per minute basis than Burleson.  Tatum averages more points per game although Smith has a slightly higher FG%.  And congratulations, Nate Jawai - you're in the playoffs!  His feelings about making those playoffs in an Idaho uniform aside, Jawai can be a solid rebounder in limited minutes, but has a propensity for foul trouble.  Mohammed Abukar spent some time on the Toros' roster earlier this season, so if this were the NBA game Reggie Miller probably wouldn't stop calling it a revenge game.  He's also a decent-but-not-great rebounder.

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Who do you think will win this first-round battle?
Austin Toros
7 votes
Idaho Stampede
22 votes
What's a battle?
1 votes

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Nice rundown Jon

I just don’t think Austin has enough in the tank to pull this one out. They’re almost an entirely new team since the departure of D-Nelson and Williams. Hairston may have to go for 50 for them to pull this out. I just don’t see it.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 10:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya never know

Idaho didn’t look great by all accounts in Utah this weekend.

Hairston can more than likely go for 50, the way he’s been scoring lately as well. Great scorer, and playing with a chip on his shoulder since Marcus WIlliams got called up..

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 11:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're forgetting...

Big Nate Jawai…..he is the X-factor. If he took it easy on the hot wings over the weekend at Rumble’s house then he domiNATE.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 11:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big Nate

Could be the X-Factor. He should come out to this titantron video.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 11:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man you love WWE intros...

…by the way, WWE is having a “draft” of their “superstars”, which actually just means they’ve run out of plotlines. I’m sure you’re aware of this considering your affinity for the intros.

Also, does Concordia College Fair Grounds, or wherever their playing this thing now, even have a color TV, let alone a Jumbotron?

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

I haven’t watched wrestling since about ‘99. I’ve also started playing some pickup ball outside now that the snow has melted off of our court, otherwise that’d be worth watching considering no D-League or NBA games are on tonight.

The Concordia University Texas Tornados I believe do have a Jumbotron. The game will be played in Building G here. The random rectangle inserted halfway in seems to me to be a perfect location for a jumbotron.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think this one is a toss-up

even more than a #4 vs. #5 might otherwise be. Idaho has the two things that can neutralize Austin - a shutdown perimeter defender and a smart center who can force Jones into his awkward hook shots without sending him to the line. If Petway can force a lot of turnovers from Hairston, I think the Stampede have a real shot.

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by Jon L on Apr 13, 2025 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like

Idaho may even have the advantage.

If Luke Jackson would come back, I’d go Idaho for sure.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sans Jackson

I still say it’s a toss-up because I’m not entirely sold on the rest of Idaho’s roster. Bergerson’s shooting has to come back to earth at some point, and other than rebounding there’s not really a particular thing they do exceptionally well.

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by Jon L on Apr 13, 2025 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are all role players

They play well within the system.

It will be a fun matchup - two opposites. Austin’s big names are going to put up big numbers and be impressive. Idaho is going to work hard and be solid all the way around.

Idaho does play defense well, also, to go along with the boards.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 1:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fred Gibson

was a 4th round pick in the 2005 NFL draft, and a 10th round pick in the 2008 D-League draft.

Gibson an athlete. Not a great basketball player, but very athletic from what I understand. Haven’t seen him play to say anything more that.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 11:39 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jon L...

…looks like you’ve got it covered as per usual - at least from the Stamps side.

These things are often decided by who decides to “show up.” Playing in a D3 college gym could actually help Austin, my guess is the confines are more cozy and maybe will amplify fan participation. If this game was in Boise I would personally feel much better about it but the loss to Utah kicked away one of Idaho’s best advantages - playing at home.

Furthermore, I don’t see the game being decided on the results of the likes of Hairston and Allred but rather the guy that plays out of his head for the night and goes 4-5 from three range or collects eight rebounds. Both Gates and Synder will make the upfront chess moves necessary; it will come down to someone who typically doesn’t make things happen making big things happen.

I am worried because mentally I think that the Stamps felt if they swept Bakersfield that they had the West in the bag and now that has not happened who knows what they are thinking. Also, I read from our friendly Mr. Flash poster that Jawai got hurt in the Saturday game (my Saturday futurecast was one big buffering effort by the way) - I hope he’s OK because because it would be nice to have his big body in there fouling Mr. Jones.

Speaking of Mr. Jones, one thing I never quite understood was why the Stamps traded Jones for Akubar. Akubar has a nice stroke and while Jones did great statistically while he was here, there is no denying his style of play was “in-the-paint-black-hole” oriented. That being said, you don’t trade big for small unless you need a PG (the Burleson trade for example). So while Jones continues to put up big numbers, I continue to ponder this. Jawai came soon after so maybe Gates knew he needed to move Jones…again, I don’t know. With Akubar not playing on Saturday night against Utah it makes me all the more curious as to what the thought process was.

Rumble

by Rumble on Apr 13, 2025 1:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didnt you hear?

Jawai messed up his ankle during the game in utah. He went back to toronto a minute after… They think it might be broke.

Im still picking idaho just so i can go to all 3 finals games…

by Fanaticflashfan.blogspot on Apr 13, 2025 2:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nawwww.....

Not Big Nate…..damn there goes one running joke off the list during the Futurecast.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flashie...

….Unless I actually get to see a game in person and find my buddies that are “in the know” to inquire, I don’t hear anything beyond the prairie winds and the sizzling of hash browns when it comes to the DLeague and the Stamps. The local fishwrap barely covers them and nba.com is a hype machine - so it is RDU or nothing in the news department.

As much as I liked to poke fun at Jawai, we could have used his poundage in the playoffs. Hope he isn’t hurt too bad - he could be here next year as well (lucky him!).

Thanks for the update, Rumble

by Rumble on Apr 13, 2025 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well Rumble...

if things get tight in the playoffs you can always run down to your basement and shoot Nate’s ankle with some pain killers, let him just stand in the paint and deflect shots/board.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 3:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My problem is...

…how do I get him out of the basement?!?!? Too big to lift and since he was a send down he won’t be expecting to walk anywhere…

by Rumble on Apr 13, 2025 3:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Done and done....

Just grab one of these from you’re local CVS

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry Scott

I meant to post “your” instead of “you’re”

I know you’re a stickler for grammer.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's okay

Just don’t let it happen again, or you’ll be put in timeout.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 3:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get him out

Maybe his girlfriend could help she played pro ball before he got drafted by toronto.

by Fanaticflashfan.blogspot on Apr 13, 2025 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Entice him with something

Ice cream? Foster’s? A performance of Crocodile Dundee On Ice at the local Boise skating rink, performed by member’s of the Stampede to show how much they don’t want him in your basement?

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or maybe a crane....

loaded with 1500 lbs of Koala BBQ?

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aren't koalas endangered?

Anyway, after researching koalas post-birth habits, I doubt Big Nate’s going to be interested in eating them, unless Rumble uses his special BBQ sauce.
From Wikipedia:
The joey then begins to explore outside of the pouch. At about this stage it begins to consume small quantities of the mother’s “pap” (formerly thought to be excrement, but now thought to come from the mother’s cecum) in order to inoculate its gut with the microbes necessary to digest eucalypt leaves.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No worse than a cow having like 18 stomachs

from which the regurgitate and re-swallow oats and crap back into their 5th stomach.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 13, 2025 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Idaho has a solid team and Austin is solid, should be a great matchup. Do you think Bgates will outcoach Quinn. I think Randy Livingston helps him out alot in teerms of coaching. Home Court will be a factor in the game but Idaho Will attack D. jones in Pick and Roll situation.

by Sid Vicious on Apr 13, 2025 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

B-Gates could outcoach Quin

Gates is a good coach. Randy I’m sure helps him out, same with Joel - same with Wendell and the other guy that helps in Austin.

I’m not sure home court will be that big of a factor, as the arena they’re playing at isn’t downtown.

Idaho’s pick and roll will do alright, but Jones will have a heyday on the boards.

As has been said earlier, it’ll more than likely come down to the guys you don’t expect to step up.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 13, 2025 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It all depends

I like all of the point guards in this game - any one of them, on either team, could break out, and it wouldn’t really be expected.

For Austin, Ezra Williams isn’t exactly a known commodity, but he’s a good player. If healthy, he could make some noise.

For Idaho, Bergesen is an obvious answer - his veteran savvy and solid shooting could both be huge for the Stampede.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 2:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does everyone's voting change

If Marcus Williams is back and Ian Mahinmi plays?

Scandalous, but likely!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 10:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Williams plays.....

and they get 10-15 minutes out of Mahinmi for something like 6pts 4brds and 2 blocks then I might be willing to say that the Toros could pull this out.

Williams drastically alters the scenario. He gives them solid ballhandling and at least 20-5-5, so you’re looking at three deadly scorers to contend with instead of two. This also brings up the questions: Who does Petway guard? Williams or Hairston, damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 11:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both.

I think I’d put Petway on Hairston and just make sure Allred and Ellis are ready to collapse when Williams drives. It’s harder to double team the primary ball handler, which is part of what makes Williams so difficult to defend - he’s able to do work against smaller players, usually one-on-one.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 11:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah if he plays this will be a markedly different game

this is quite an exciting wrinkle. Do you actually have news that Williams is being sent back down?

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 11:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd post if it was official

But unfortunately, just got a text that Quin said he was getting re-assigned, but then wasn’t, and now nobody knows. He wasn’t on the trip last night though, which makes me think he’ll be headed to Austin.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 11:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man talk about a last minute bomb

How the hell does Gates game-plan for this…..I love the D-Legaue, 100X more playoff wrinkles.

In the NBA the media sometimes has to create drama for first round games, “Well, he said your jumpshot was ugly.” Headline: “Lebron has a hangnail.”

But in the D-League you legitimately don’t know who’ll be playing week in and week out….crazy

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 12:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It does add an extra wrinkle

Guys can be assigned up until their last regular season game. It’d be great to see non-playoff teams assign their players tomorrow - Hadaddi to Dakota and Alando Tucker to the Energy would be two players that have been assigned this season that could add huge wrinkles to the playoff picture. Darnell Jackson from Cleveland today would have been great as well!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 12:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What if the GS Warriors just said "screw it"

and sent Anthony Randolph to the Jam. That would be epic. He personifies a “20 point swing”

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 12:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

I would love to see that. That’s a championship lineup if you decide to play him at the 5.
PG - Mateen Cleaves
SG - Trey Johnson
SF - Derrick Byars
PF - Justin Reed
C - Anthony Randolph

4 players that have played in the league and Derrick Byars, former SEC Player of the Year. Let’s do it.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Calling Don Nelson as we speak...

lord knows Randolph isn’t getting anymore PT on Nelson’s veteran lovefest.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 12:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three things. 1.) Please let this be true. 2.) I see you are using my word, scandalous! 3.) I was reading thru the comments really fast and I thought you said you got a text from Quin. I was about to be jealous.

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

1) Just updated that this probably isn’t going to happen. 2) I like scandalous. With any Toros news, expect this to be used. 3) I wish it was a text from Quin. Unfortunately, just Joel Abelson, who’s basically a young, less flowing hair, Quin Snyder.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 4:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why’s Quin gotta get me excited like that? Scandalous!

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought he said that too...

so I ran in my room and started crying. Then I drew hearts around the picture of Quin I have hanging on my walls.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 4:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have Quin hanging on your walls too? I thought I was the only one…

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love you TorosGirl...

in a sense that you love Quin Snyder and so do I. Are you closet Duke fan?

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahaha okay Scott

Don’t get so touchy. It’s not like I said the Bismarck State College’s Volleyball Team sucks or anything. Gooooooo Mystics!

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry! What’s your email, Iceman?

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys are lame

I was JKing. Talk about your love for Quin all the time. I’m just jealous my hair isn’t more radiant.

Also, IceMan, I didn’t go to BSC. I went to Bemidji State. Check out our volleyball team!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay yes, fairly hot.

And BTW, you had mentioned your school in a previous post, and I thought it was made up. Some kind of joke on outsourcing jobs to India.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You went to Bemidji St? I always wondered where that school was. Mizzou played them in Quin’s last season I think.

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Northern Minnesota

Not made up. Wonderful school - In and out quite quickly and into the real world, where I run a succesful blog.
:-)

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe you

From entry number 5:
You know you’re school knows how to party when you throw parties so big S.W.A.T teams have to come.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey

I’m not the perpetrator of the you’re/your misuses. But I did enjoy th finale of post #5….If you one day find yourself with a chic from JMU consider yourself lucky as a dog because every guy wants a MILF later down the road. True intelligence.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta give a shout out to my alma mater, Washington and Jefferson College. Our only claims to fame are that NFL Commish Goddell is an alumnus and our alma mater is the “join hands and hearts and voices” song from Dirty Dancing only with different words.

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 6:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that's awesome

I love Dirty Dancing, because as Freddy Finals says every baller has a soft side Though his was Ghost, which is scary/hilarious

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So..

Every baller needs to like a Patrick Swayze movie? I’ll pick Tall Tale.

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sent you an email…

by TorosGirl on Apr 14, 2025 5:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See Scott...

we emailed, to avoid your ever present, judging gaze.

by IcemanCometh on Apr 14, 2025 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

I am proud of you both, but did say I was JKing. Thanks for not cluttering this with useless drivel unrelated to this game!

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by Scott Schroeder on Apr 14, 2025 6:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Playoff Preview: #4 Austin vs. #5 Idaho

On February 22, 2007, head coach Dennis Johnson died of an apparent heart attack after a workout with his players. After an interim coach guided the team for the rest of that season, Quin Snyder was named as the team’s head coach for 2007-08.

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